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Old 09-06-2005, 10:58 PM
James
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Default Doom3 and Wireless comfort keyboard

Hi,
I bought a comfort edition wireless optical desktop, and I love it, but I've
got a problem in games.
When playing firt person shooters such as doom3 or halflife2, multiple keys
are required to be held down at the one time. On my old keyboard (a wired ps2
dell thingy) there was no problem. Now however in no pattern I can discern,
when running forward (holding down w key) and performing other actions
(ducking ctrl, jumping space, strafing left a and right d) I will stop moving
forward and will have to release the w key before re-pressing it.
I have read some information on n-key rollover, but don't think that applies
as my old keyboard doesn't have this feature either.

Is this a common problem with MS wireless keyboards? Is there a fix? Should
I return this keyboard?

Thanks,
--James
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:30 AM
Galen
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Default Re: Doom3 and Wireless comfort keyboard

In news:1DB2743C-C967-4DDC-BB4F-27D0C32718A1@microsoft.com,
James <James@discussions.microsoft.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Hi,
> I bought a comfort edition wireless optical desktop, and I love it,
> but I've got a problem in games.
> When playing firt person shooters such as doom3 or halflife2,
> multiple keys are required to be held down at the one time. On my old
> keyboard (a wired ps2 dell thingy) there was no problem. Now however
> in no pattern I can discern, when running forward (holding down w
> key) and performing other actions (ducking ctrl, jumping space,
> strafing left a and right d) I will stop moving forward and will have
> to release the w key before re-pressing it.
> I have read some information on n-key rollover, but don't think that
> applies as my old keyboard doesn't have this feature either.
>
> Is this a common problem with MS wireless keyboards? Is there a fix?
> Should I return this keyboard?
>
> Thanks,
> --James


There is has been lag reported often with wireless devices and FPS games.
I'd not recommend returning the keyboard though I would recommend just
switching to a wired one when you want to do some serious gaming. It's not
just Microsoft wireless - it's any wireless from what I've read. I can't say
that I've experienced this because, well, I don't play FPS or games that
require much more than thinking and that's about the extent for me. (I'm
old, I still think Fallout 2 is the second greatest game and follows Zork as
the first greatest game.) I do know that my wireless keyboard and mouse do
display lag at times and sometimes will show low signal for no real reason
because it says the battery level is fine. However replacing the batteries
when this happens has improved the signal quality issues. Are the batteries
new? (Assuming this isn't one of the rechargable units which I'm not even
sure Microsoft actually makes any of and even then I think I only have a
rechargable mouse...)

Galen
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"You know that a conjurer gets no credit when once he has explained his
trick; and if I show you too much of my method of working, you will
come to the conclusion that I am a very ordinary individual after all."

Sherlock Holmes


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Old 09-07-2005, 05:54 AM
Tim Bird
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Default Re: Doom3 and Wireless comfort keyboard

I have a logitech wireless keyboard and mouse and they both work fine in
HL2, CS:S and Doom3.

"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23oLZoc3sFHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> In news:1DB2743C-C967-4DDC-BB4F-27D0C32718A1@microsoft.com,
> James <James@discussions.microsoft.com> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> Hi,
>> I bought a comfort edition wireless optical desktop, and I love it,
>> but I've got a problem in games.
>> When playing firt person shooters such as doom3 or halflife2,
>> multiple keys are required to be held down at the one time. On my old
>> keyboard (a wired ps2 dell thingy) there was no problem. Now however
>> in no pattern I can discern, when running forward (holding down w
>> key) and performing other actions (ducking ctrl, jumping space,
>> strafing left a and right d) I will stop moving forward and will have
>> to release the w key before re-pressing it.
>> I have read some information on n-key rollover, but don't think that
>> applies as my old keyboard doesn't have this feature either.
>>
>> Is this a common problem with MS wireless keyboards? Is there a fix?
>> Should I return this keyboard?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --James

>
> There is has been lag reported often with wireless devices and FPS games.
> I'd not recommend returning the keyboard though I would recommend just
> switching to a wired one when you want to do some serious gaming. It's not
> just Microsoft wireless - it's any wireless from what I've read. I can't
> say that I've experienced this because, well, I don't play FPS or games
> that require much more than thinking and that's about the extent for me.
> (I'm old, I still think Fallout 2 is the second greatest game and follows
> Zork as the first greatest game.) I do know that my wireless keyboard and
> mouse do display lag at times and sometimes will show low signal for no
> real reason because it says the battery level is fine. However replacing
> the batteries when this happens has improved the signal quality issues.
> Are the batteries new? (Assuming this isn't one of the rechargable units
> which I'm not even sure Microsoft actually makes any of and even then I
> think I only have a rechargable mouse...)
>
> Galen
> --
>
> "You know that a conjurer gets no credit when once he has explained his
> trick; and if I show you too much of my method of working, you will
> come to the conclusion that I am a very ordinary individual after all."
>
> Sherlock Holmes
>



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Old 09-07-2005, 05:54 AM
Galen
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Default Re: Doom3 and Wireless comfort keyboard

In news:u7Jj6A4sFHA.616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
Tim Bird <tim.bird@nospamprettypleasehebron.co.uk> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> I have a logitech wireless keyboard and mouse and they both work fine
> in HL2, CS:S and Doom3.
>
> "Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23oLZoc3sFHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> In news:1DB2743C-C967-4DDC-BB4F-27D0C32718A1@microsoft.com,
>> James <James@discussions.microsoft.com> had this to say:
>>
>> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I bought a comfort edition wireless optical desktop, and I love it,
>>> but I've got a problem in games.
>>> When playing firt person shooters such as doom3 or halflife2,
>>> multiple keys are required to be held down at the one time. On my
>>> old keyboard (a wired ps2 dell thingy) there was no problem. Now
>>> however in no pattern I can discern, when running forward (holding
>>> down w key) and performing other actions (ducking ctrl, jumping
>>> space, strafing left a and right d) I will stop moving forward and
>>> will have to release the w key before re-pressing it.
>>> I have read some information on n-key rollover, but don't think that
>>> applies as my old keyboard doesn't have this feature either.
>>>
>>> Is this a common problem with MS wireless keyboards? Is there a fix?
>>> Should I return this keyboard?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --James

>>
>> There is has been lag reported often with wireless devices and FPS
>> games. I'd not recommend returning the keyboard though I would
>> recommend just switching to a wired one when you want to do some
>> serious gaming. It's not just Microsoft wireless - it's any wireless
>> from what I've read. I can't say that I've experienced this because,
>> well, I don't play FPS or games that require much more than thinking
>> and that's about the extent for me. (I'm old, I still think Fallout
>> 2 is the second greatest game and follows Zork as the first greatest
>> game.) I do know that my wireless keyboard and mouse do display lag
>> at times and sometimes will show low signal for no real reason
>> because it says the battery level is fine. However replacing the
>> batteries when this happens has improved the signal quality issues.
>> Are the batteries new? (Assuming this isn't one of the rechargable
>> units which I'm not even sure Microsoft actually makes any of and
>> even then I think I only have a rechargable mouse...) Galen
>> --
>>
>> "You know that a conjurer gets no credit when once he has explained
>> his trick; and if I show you too much of my method of working, you
>> will come to the conclusion that I am a very ordinary individual after
>> all." Sherlock Holmes


I took a peek and it seems that there's some gaming specific drivers
available for the Logitec which claim to reduce the lag to virtually nil. Of
all the FPS gamers I know only one uses a wireless keyboard (even at LAN
parties) to the best of my knowledge and their combination was some
extremely expensive specialized set made just for gamers. I don't know the
brand off the top of my head but I suspect it is a high end Logitec however
even the new "gaming keyboard" from Logitec isn't wireless.

http://www.dvhardware.net/article6341.html

Does look pretty though doesn't it?

Galen
--

"You know that a conjurer gets no credit when once he has explained his
trick; and if I show you too much of my method of working, you will
come to the conclusion that I am a very ordinary individual after all."

Sherlock Holmes


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