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Old 03-27-2003, 08:56 PM
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I have been reading a lot of posts from people who are anti war individuals, and I have been fairly impressed by the reasoning used in posts such as Darth_Faction. However, they all seem to have the idea that we are pre-emptively attacking a country that may attack us, and thus we are setting a dangerous precedent.

This war is not pre-emptive though. After the first Persian Gulf War in 1991, Saddam had to cease production of all war, and prove it. Inspectors were tried and kicked out, no fly zones were enforced, but the planes are shot at, etc. Saddam was almost forced to stop those banned weapons programs after the first war, and he agreed to stop them, otherwise the previous war would have gone all the way to Baghdad, Iraq's capital. So we gave him chances after chances after chances, and since then, he has refused to allow scientists to be interviewed, shot at planes in the no fly zone, kicked out inspectors and refused to allow his presidential palaces to be inspected, etc. So finally, with Bush leading the way, the world puts maximum pressure and threats of war on Iraq.

And what happens? Saddam plays games with America. He stalls. Think about it, if he really destroyed the weapons programs, he would have proof, he would allow those who destroyed them to talk about it, he would be EAGER to show the world that he had cooperated so he could get the sanctions lifted. Instead, he lets the inspectors search all over, giving them zero information about where the destruction of the weapons took place, and when bush says thats enough, suddenly they destroy 3 or 4 missiles that go 20 miles out of range.

Bottom line: Saddam is just wasting the worlds time and energy, he has no intention of giving up his WMD ambitions. In other words, he has no intention of living up to the agreement that ended the Gulf War. This war is almost finishing that job, and is therefore NOT a "pre-emptive strike against a country that hasnt threatened us".

I understand why some people feel like it is a pre-emptive strike, but considering all the facts and what has happened in Iraq the last dozen years, I feel like Saddam has had plenty of chances to cooperate and has refused, and therefore the forced removal of his regime is justified.

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Old 03-27-2003, 09:01 PM
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Amen brotha!

There is some speculation that a pilot shot down in Iraq who has never been recovered since the 1st Gulf might even be held prisoner in Iraq. If they find him and he's alive there will be a lot of hell to pay for captured Iraqi leaders.
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It's good to strike Iraq before they do any more harm to innocent people in the world. Saddam has had alot of chances to make good on his promises, but he has lied 95% of the time and did certain things to save his butt. Hopefully once we take care Iraq it will send a message to people like North Korea and Iran to obey the UN's rules.
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It's good to strike Iraq before they do any more harm to innocent people in the world. Saddam has had alot of chances to make good on his promises, but he has lied 95% of the time and did certain things to save his butt. Hopefully once we take care Iraq it will send a message to people like North Korea and Iran to obey the UN's rules.
hey i was about to post that
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Dictators don't learn. That's one thing that I realized. Taking out Osama didn't do anything to Saddam or anyone else. North Korea and Iran and other countries like these will continue doing these things... By the time we graduate there will probably be another war with North Korea.

I hope we have a lot of boys to go over there and help me out.
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Dictators don't learn. That's one thing that I realized. Taking out Osama didn't do anything to Saddam or anyone else. North Korea and Iran and other countries like these will continue doing these things... By the time we graduate there will probably be another war with North Korea.

I hope we have a lot of boys to go over there and help me out.
I agree.
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