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I can certainly see your point there Protoman. It could be a good thing for the Xbox to have Rare developing games for it. As for PD0 being cel shaded, well, it seems to be all the rage nowadays... the new Zelda on the GC, XIII and so on. I don't see what's wrong with that. If all games were realistic looking, it would be boring. It's good to have some variations. but having said that, we haven't even seen any screenshots of PD0, so isn't it better to wait and see what happens? Rest assured... Rare will certainly deliver quality games, like they always have done.
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The question isn't whether or not RareWare will develop great quality, there will always have that characteristic from others. The real controversy is if Microsoft will wait long enough for one ot be developed...
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I don't know what you mean Big N.
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I've noticed that Zelda GCN has evolved into a different style than cell-shaded. Miyamoto wanted a more cartoonish feel for this title, and I sense the cartoon-ness... Cell shading tends to have aggressive outlines of objescts, and a more 3D feel. This Zelda feels 2D in a slight way. I dunno if anybody feels the same way, but I can't wait for the final product.
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I can't wait for Zelda, this is because it's Zelda, not because it's cel shaded/cartoony.
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Well.......
When RareWare was in relations with Nintendo, they were known to make great and excellent AAA quality titles for the Nintendo 64. However, one disadvantage that clearly separated them from others was the huge use of delaying, revising, and slowly but surely developing their games. Nintendo, fortunately, was patient enough to actually wait a year (or even a 1 1/2 years) before it was released to the world. Many other magazines and media did complain, in fact, that RareWare produced games to slowly. Now that Rare has swicthed ties with Micorosoft as a 2nd Party Developer, I'm still guessing all of the titles will be produced on XBOx, HOWEVER at a very slow pace. I think the reason Micorosoft even began to decide buying out Rare because they knew it would be a great advanatage to have them if their productions slowed; Rare's games would increase XBox sales, games slaes, and their userbase would look much more improved in general. I still don't believe though that Micorosoft is going to have enough patience for these games to be developed. About 9 times out of 10, a RareWare WILL MOST LIKELY be delayed to a further reelase date for other reasons. I'm almost positive Microsoft will have a hard time WAITING and WAITING for Rare's AAA games to be published, as to Nintendo, which were a tad more lenient and realized the company's potential. That's why it's so remarkable why people think that Rare will actually create 3-5 games on XBox in the next two years: I'm about 90% sure that they will hardly reach that level. They are known to polish a title until it's to the maximum graphical ability, and I believe Micorsoft will NEED Rare to publsih games when the XBox sales are lower than average. If Rare doesn't buckle down and start creating games for XBox, they might switch back; if Mr. Bill Gates needs one of Rare's great titles to be produced in, say, the next two months, it's probably not going to happen........:halo: :mario:
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Probably? I garuntee not. Like you mentioned Big N', Rare likes to focus on one game to make full use out of a hardware medium. Once again, look at SFA... Rare closed every other game in production just to focus on one title. I think they just might need a larger staff.
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You're right, Asarien
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Well Big N, I think you could be right there, MS may not be willing to wait for so long, if they rush Rare, then obviously the games aren't going to be of a good quality. I think, if MS make the mistake of rushing Rare's games through, they will either lose customers, or gain a bad reputation. however, if MS did make that mistake, they would learn in future from their mistakes and learn to be patient. However, I would have thought that MS would have known what Rare is like for delaying their games etc when they bought Rare. So I would have thought they would have considered that when making a bid for them. But having said that, look at the example of Halo 2, Bungie is taking a long time to make Halo 2, because they want to make sure it's top quality. MS are being patient with Bungie, so there's no real reason why they shouldn't be the same with Rare, especially if they realise Rare's potential. So really, nothing is for sure, it could go either way.
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At first when I heard MS bought rare I was like oh crap this sucks, but now I thought about it and dont care anymore its kindo old to me.IMO
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