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i would have to agree, the media is not fair nor balanced at all. Why is it when I turn on the news wether its local or national that im always seeing the violence of the world both locally and nationally.
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04-08-2004, 03:55 PM
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i would have to agree, the media is not fair nor balanced at all. Why is it when I turn on the news wether its local or national that im always seeing the violence of the world both locally and nationally.
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Bad news strangely attracts viewers. The more violence the better the ratings. That is why they have live police chases on TV in LA....
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04-08-2004, 04:06 PM
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Bad news strangely attracts viewers. The more violence the better the ratings. That is why they have live police chases on TV in LA....
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No shit? Why does it just have to be LA? Houston has shown a couple locally, so has Dallas, Ft. Worth and other cities as well.
Hell, I remember when I was a lil kid about 7 years of age, right before the news would begin, one of the news reporters would say " It's 10 o'clock pm, do you know where your children are" What ever happened to the good days of good damned media. Forgot the dumb crap to show the latest driveby, rape victim or murder just to boost your shows stupid tv rating.
What is also stupid is how the news stations are in competiton. All I ever hear.
"We were there first"
"Bringing it to you first'
" Live on channel ___"
"Only on channel ___ will you see this"
When at the end of the day, all those stations will pretty much tell you the same thing, so competiting to show you the latest gun shot victim makes no sense. How about competiting to show the viewers the latest good news. Then again, screw the media all together, i'll go start my own small local news station with nothing but good news to spread.
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04-09-2004, 04:40 AM
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After a quick search on the web, using the keywords "iraq" and "electricity" or "power", i found dozens of articles reporting power outages throughout the entire year since the war began in Iraq.
I doubt the iraqi economy would improve all that much without power...
Btw, electric power in Iraq (when functioning) is shutted down at 09:00 p.m, every day, to resume at 9:00 the morning after. This is done regularly, as i verified in a documentary i watched only a few days ago. It related the story of a police chief, in Baghdad. His daughter had to study at candle light, everynight. They got their drinking water out of a well, shared by all the locals, because the water mains are still broken, a year after.
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/headlines03/1220-06.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/25/business/yourmoney/25ENER.html?ex=1369195200&en=8ba519f73b84742f&ei=5 007&partner=USERLAND
Some of you might say "hey, those articles are from 2003, they have fixed it by now". The latest date i found in such a small and quick search was December 2003. If during a whole year, they didnīt fix it, what makes you think they managed to fix it now in a couple of months? Itīs even worst, now that there is a generalized rebellion going on!
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If during a whole year, they didnīt fix it, what makes you think they managed to fix it now in a couple of months? Itīs even worst, now that there is a generalized rebellion going on!
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This is what the European media has reported about all along and because the US mainstream media is too biased to show the real situation over there, the people in the US will never understand why there is a rebellion going on. Also to be taken into consideration is the gowing drug problem that has exploded.
I think we would have an uprising ala LA on our hands in the US if you would cut the power for 12 hours every day and do that over a year!
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04-09-2004, 05:51 PM
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Another example of liberal media bias:
Perhaps many of you remember, about a year ago, Trent Lott said that if America had followed Strom Thurmond years ago we wouldn't be in this mess we're in right now. Two days latter he resigned under the torrent of public backlash. Course, no one in the public would've heard about it without the media.
Six days ago, Senator Robert Byrd cast his 17,000th vote and the Senators rose to praise him. Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd said that Byrd was a "man for all seasons" and would have been equally right for the founding of the country as well as during the Civil War. In fact, Mr. Dodd couldn't think of a time in history when Senator Byrd would not have been right for the country.
So who's Robert Byrd? Rober Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan. After WWII, Byrd wrote of his hopes for the rebirth of the Klan in his home state of W. Virginia. In 1964 Byrd participated with fellow Democrats in an effort to filibuster the Civil Rights Act. Three years ago Byrd used the "N" word repeatedly in a Fox News interview. This is a "man for all seasons"?
Have you heard about this? Probably not. And why not? Why was Trent Lott so vehemently and expediently lambasted for his comments and Mr. Dodd has not? Who can say for sure. But I think it's interesting to remember that Mr. Lott is a Republican and Mr. Dodd is a Democrat.
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I know this has gotten a lot of play on Fox News, and I am sure it will be picked up by other outlets soon enough. Do you remember if the Strom Thurmond backlash was immediate? I ask because I believe the Byrd situation will get big coverage and it will only show bias IF the Thurmond situation got immediate attention (since the Byrd situation hasn't).
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If I remember correctly, Lott resigned within two days of his comments. I didn't know Fox had picked this up, never watch it. I've seen nothing on CNN, still, some 8 days later.
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If I remember correctly, Lott resigned within two days of his comments. I didn't know Fox had picked this up, never watch it. I've seen nothing on CNN, still, some 8 days later.
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Well, then you might have a point. I have one more question then. Why, if the media is so liberal does it not report more on Bush's abuses of Constitutional protections? I mean Fox News (which I do watch occassionally) spends a HUGE amount of time trumpeting the President's successes (or more often what they consider his successes) AND they spend a lot of time attacking Kerry. I don't see the converse on any of the supposedly liberal outlets (except maybe the NY Times).
Air America, which I have not listened to, probably spends most of its air time attacking the president but I don't really count them as anything more than a comedy station.
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Well, then you might have a point. I have one more question then. Why, if the media is so liberal does it not report more on Bush's abuses of Constitutional protections?
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That's a good question. I don't know. Have you noticed that if they ever do talk about these things it's couched as: "Rumsfeld refuses [whatever] to Gitmo detainees" or "Ashcroft firm on Patriot Act"? It's like these guys are operating all by themselves.
Since the legislators who signed the Patriot Act into law didn't even understand it, I wonder if the conventional media analysts can understand it.
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I mean Fox News (which I do watch occassionally) spends a HUGE amount of time trumpeting the President's successes (or more often what they consider his successes) AND they spend a lot of time attacking Kerry.
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I believe it, and that's why I don't watch it. Guys like O'Reilly make me sick to my stomach. I think CNN is relatively impartial in reporting what they report. Where they fail, I believe, is in situations like what's posted above; they just don't report it. Maybe it's not their fault. Maybe they just wait until somebody else breaks a story and then puts it on. Remember when CNN used to actually be the first place to go for news? When's the last time you ever saw breaking news on CNN?
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I always watch "The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer " on PBS. They seem to be much less biased, and they go into far more depth and detail on each subject. Also, they close each show every night with photos and vital info on the latest US casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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