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What will be so new about them? They will only beat up poice officers instead of shooting them?

Well they are lacking the first thing to justify their existance...?
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why do you two always get so touchy and insultated when I mention anything about The Black Panthers and The New Black Panther Party?
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I noticed that everybody gets touchy and insulted/ing in this forum...

It feels so antagonistic here, maybe because there are less people than in the former SR P&R forum and therefore less buffering. Always the same few people posting the same kind of messages too so the antagonism grows... Anyway, I'd like to see a mod start a thread about what they think about the forum. I would but I think it would be better if a mod does it.

As for the new Black panthers, I don't have any strong feelings on the matter. There are plenty of white supremacy orgs. so I say why not (not saying it is a black supremacy party BTW)? It's not like they've commited any crimes, right?
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There are plenty of white supremacy orgs. so I say why not (not saying it is a black supremacy party BTW)? It's not like they've commited any crimes, right?
And I oppose their existance as much as any fanatic group. Be that white supremecists, radical christians/muslims or any black or asian power movement. Just to clarify my position....

And to your "they haven't commited any crimes" comment, you may want to add "YET" to that statement as any of these organized bunch of idiots commit crimes sooner or later. Sadly I live in Texas where it is legal and permitted for the NEW black panthers to parade through the street showing of their AK 47's... Yeahhhhhh... peaceful and lawabiding bunch they are...


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why do you two always get so touchy and insultated when I mention anything about The Black Panthers and The New Black Panther Party?
The BP can be seen as a child born of "neccesety" of the civil rights movement although that is a stretch. The "NBP" are useless non-sense organization are lacking any kind of justification for their existance nor the backing of the black community as they do not have any agenda that would help the black population in general. You may want to brush up on who the NBP is considering the following:

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As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group's exploitation of the Party's name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party's name upon itself, which we condemn.
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Two months later, McGee organized a public meeting to recruit members to the Black Panther Militia at a local public school. Although dressed in black fatigues reminiscent of the original Panthers, McGee told the crowd of 300 that he was "not advocating what the Black Panthers were advocating. Our militia will be about violence. I'm talking actual fighting, bloodshed and urban guerilla warfare."
And you wonder why we don't like folks like that????
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ok so your point being?
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My point is that the NBP is just another criminal organization and has NO affiliation with the original BP's. Looking at your new "title" I may want to point out that you are a little to young to be one of the originals, so you must be a new one.... You want civic rights and improvement for the blacks and believe that this can be achieved with an AK-47...???? Good gravy...
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I see my idea for this thread didn't really catch fire...maybe could've used a little more lighter fluid....
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And I oppose their existance as much as any fanatic group. Be that white supremecists, radical christians/muslims or any black or asian power movement. Just to clarify my position....

And to your "they haven't commited any crimes" comment, you may want to add "YET" to that statement as any of these organized bunch of idiots commit crimes sooner or later. Sadly I live in Texas where it is legal and permitted for the NEW black panthers to parade through the street showing of their AK 47's... Yeahhhhhh... peaceful and lawabiding bunch they are...
Ideally, we wouldn't have any groups based on color/race/sex, so in that respect I totally agree with you. However, we have them because some people have a need for them for whatever reason. Again, it may be better if people went the ACLU route but I guess it's not for everyone. Let them do what they want, if they get in trouble with the law the law will take care of them. I am not their mom.

I initially typed "yet" but it would seem like I knew they were going to do something, which is not the case. I am more a "innocent until proven guilty" kind of guy.
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