Ridiculous??? You want to know what´s really ridiculous? It´s shutting your eyes and pretend its just a bad dream.
But i have no problem whatsoever in educating you, although sometimes i feel i´m wasting my latin.
http://www.palestinercs.org/crisista...of_figures.htm
But please, don´t tell me this site is bias and that the numbers are exagerated, ok? That´s just an easy way out.
Also, notice the injury numbers, and the live ammo rounds used. And remember also that these numbers relate to the victims that the Red Crescent knew about and treated, wich leaves a huge number of unaccounted victims yet to account for.
Now i ask YOU:
Where did YOU get your number of 500 israelis killed? I ask because you came short by about 300 or so. The last i came to palestinian sites (i used to visit them on a daily basis, a year ago), i had heard of about 800 israeli casualties.
But never mind that. Where did you get that number? Or did you just pop it from the top of your head? Here´s another link for you:
http://www.mepc.org/public_asp/resources/mrates.asp

It states:
Israelis killed: 871
Palestinians killed:2817
If you wander around the site, you´ll find the casualties by genre, stating that of those 2817 killed, over 500 were children.
I´ll save you the trouble of searching.
Here:
http://www.palestinercs.org/Conflict...rom%20Children

No, it is not. Sharon is more hightech in his killings. Check the ordenance used on a daily basis, by the Tsahal ground troops here:
http://www.palestinercs.org/bullet_types_images.htm

Btw, did you know that around 5% of the Israeli Armed Forces are refusing to fight the palestinians? On moral grounds? Even pilots are rebelling against Sharon´s murder policies!! What does that tell you?

Ah, i remember now!! You must mean those nasty palestinian settlements, that pop up like mushrooms after a rainy day, don´t you? Those poor israelis are being driven from their homes, while those "evil" terrorists keep building on their soil, isn´t it?
Hmmmm, no wait, those are israeli settlements, the palestinians are not allowed to build settlements. Infact, now that i think of it, they can´t even build a house without having it dinamited by the Israeli army...
Yup, you are right. It´s the palestinians who haven´t respected the 1967 borders, and keep sending their bulldozers to raise the "poor" israeli refugee camps to the ground. I´m sorry, my bad.:indeed:

I aim to please! Glad to see you made it too, as we all need a good laugh. And you always provide!

As my final link, i leave you with the number of attacks on ambulances and medical staff, since September 2000:
http://www.palestinercs.org/emsphcunderfire.htm
Ahh yes, those fine israelis are really good guys, aren´t they? Such bravery and big heartedness, shooting those nasty "terrorist" ambulances... I bow in total respect! :bird:

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Emperor Augustus of Rome.

I stand corrected. Thanks for the source. So, are 800 civilians, mostly Israeli, worth the 3000 Palestinians? Should it be more?
Oh, you mean the land gained by Israel when the entire Arab world tried to wipe them of the planet? Or do you mean the land seized by European powers from the Ottoman Empire, and then apportioned out by said European powers after WWII?
Yea, it shows. Glad to see you finally have some cute cartoons to finally show off your intellect. Personally, I prefer to just tell someone to fuck off. It has a certain amount of vehemence that can be more accurately conveyed.

Ooops! I forgot something: You never told me what noble qualities Yassin had that his assassination deserves such condemnation from you.

That wasn´t pointing at you. It was pointing at Sharon. Don´t try to read more into my statements than what it´s meant to be.
If i wanted to tell you to "f**k off", i would have done so with every word. But i don´t. Not yet anyway. But if you keep testing my patience, i might.

PS:Those smilies are a blast, aren´t they? But there are still some emotions missing, and sometimes we have to make due with what we have, although we risk being misunderstood. As was the case...

Like i said before,had you read it all, it´s not about the man. Yassin was a man filled with hatread, and his death means nothing for me. But the fact that Sharon ordered him killed, when it is known that such death will fuel an onslaught of further violence, i´m left with no choice but to condemn this with the utmost vigour, for it brings no good from it.
If Sharon can have Yassin killed, he will do the same to Arafat, and to any other palestinian leader who takes his place.
Besides, Yassin was an old sick man. He was dying already. Had Sharon left nature take its course, the world would have been spared the upcoming onslaught, and the result would have been the same: Yassin would be dead.
In that way, Sharon is brewing further senseless violence.

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Emperor Augustus of Rome.

Please, Hammer, don't hurt me.
Then a successful assassination of Bush would bring the same righteous indignation, right?

Good does come from it. The man who has spurned young, disillusioned and impressionable people into murdering innocent civilians is dead. Another has probably already taken his place; he should be killed too. The faster these people realize there is no benefit to their crimes the faster they'll try something constructive.
So. You can still be a mass murderer from a wheelchair. Wheelchairs only make stairs and steep hills wicked hard.
You don't seriously believe the Palestinians are going to start blowing up busses, eateries, and school children do you? Wait a sec... they're already doing that.

The partition plan involved separated palestinian areas. Or rather, areas connected with bridges over a number of buffer- zones. What was the counter- offer, the only sensible option imo., was to grant the palestinians a state with one border. This was not an option at all for the Israeli negotiators, and the talks broke down. As many of them would say, to negotiate with the terrorists in the first place would be unacceptable, as would granting them a bastion for staging attacks against Israel, and these terrorists should simply be told to accept any kind of offer made. Of course, one could blaim Arafat and his entourage for the same stern approach, but the fact is still that none of the suggestions made was acceptable for any of the parties. That also many Israelis would say that they should not negotiate about what they could take by force, and that many palestinians tried to bring down the peace talks by demanding completily unacceptable terms, like the right of return, or the borders from the UN draft anno 1947, in an attempt to rouse it's "allies" in the neighbouring countries as well as more of the inland hardliners, should perhaps be mentioned as well.

There's things about the situation today that should not be ignored, however. The palestinians have no particularly effective government, they have no authority, no police, much due to the effort of the Israeli government. It's really an unhappy situation the way that Israel plays into the hands of the fanatics like this, more or less manufacturing support for the Hamas. Because with no palestinian authority, there will be no negotiations, because the authorities (All right, Arafat) are unable to guarantee anything in the areas of security. Of course, the Israelis know this, and that makes it even worse. Shame about the reluctance from the UN about involving themselves any specific plans, though.

It's horribly funny, really. Our own sort of failure ex-prime- minister is now working in the foreign committee of the parliament, and regularly reports back from the west- bank and Ramallah, and the reports go like this: "Yea', it's pretty much chaos everywhere, and the situation is graver than ever. No, don't see much hope for anything to change soon, no. Oh, yes, [concerned voice reserved for speaking about grandparents]Arafat is relatively well." Then he will get somewhat roused and state with utter conviction: "we must follow the rules! Noone can be allowed to summary excecute people and terrorize the civillian inhabitants! Must have the US involved! Implement the Roadmap!" and so on. And the problem is that soon his pet grandfather will be beyond saving, and the rest of the hope for any palestinian state will crumble along with the infrastructure and the palestinian sense of nationality.

However, how long will this take? Fifty years, perhaps? A hundred? Meanwhile, people are born and die in enclosed "refugee cities", living largely off charity. Still, the reluctance for anyone to involve themselves actively means that these people will continue to live like this and there will continue to be support for the only real institution in the areas - Hamas. Obviously, Israel sees this slow decomposition as an option, but I am truly sorry to see that there are no more effort put into this from the ones that have any real power in the matter.

Oh, well. Rant over.