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Old 05-09-2004, 02:43 PM
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The industry, riches and everything in Iraq is made by us (I mean UK US Germany and France). Those Iraqis are a nomadic population which doesn't belong to anywhere and just went living there because Western Countries found oil. Those arabs (this is not the case of the Kurds) are parasites that WE accept there as Iraqis but they exist only because WE think they do. What if we change our minds and put them back on their camels and send them to nowehere where they belong ? This is the REAL TRUTH about Iraq. They should be warned THE COALITION and its interests is in charge of their future.
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janlefev, you are a racist idiot.
Oh and please back those claims with something.
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Old 05-09-2004, 02:46 PM
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Those Iraqis are a nomadic population which doesn't belong to anywhere and just went living there because Western Countries found oil.
Uh, will someone please tell this guy just where and by whom was modern civilization started? Please don´t say "Washington"...

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Those arabs (this is not the case of the Kurds) are parasites that WE accept there as Iraqis but they exist only because WE think they do.
Ok, now that we know that you have a racial problem with arabs, how about talking some sense? Allthough interesting, reading someone´s racial rants are not my idea of fun.

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What if we change our minds and put them back on their camels and send them to nowehere where they belong ?
Oh, why did you left out the "raghead" and "camel jokey" terminology?
You were on a role there, so why did you stop short?
Isn´t freedom of speech wonderfull? It´s a modern marvel to be able to speak out of the back orifice and not being stomped on because of it. Still...
Oh well, we can´t all be little Nelson Mandellas or little Ghandis, can we?
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Uh, will someone please tell this guy just where and by whom was modern civilization started? Please don�t say "Washington"...



Ok, now that we know that you have a racial problem with arabs, how about talking some sense? Allthough interesting, reading someone�s racial rants are not my idea of fun.



Oh, why did you left out the "raghead" and "camel jokey" terminology?
You were on a role there, so why did you stop short?
Isn�t freedom of speech wonderfull? It�s a modern marvel to be able to speak out of the back orifice and not being stomped on because of it. Still...
Oh well, we can�t all be little Nelson Mandellas or little Ghandis, can we?
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No, no. Not the same people on camels today and at the head of the Assyrian empire. Those with the camels came later. Nothing to do with Babylon... only smoking hashish.

Racial problem with arabs... Well arabs are of the same race or are supposed to with the Assyrians. Now they are not from the same civilization.
You know civilizations grow and vanish and their people with them. We don't know what they became. Maybe went to Europe or just had low birthrate and vanished. This is not something related to our civilization only. Summerian documents proved that some of the Summerian towns had administration growth and taxes that stopped their expansion and birthrate and help progressive replacement of their people with Assyrian and other semitic immigrants. The Assyrian civilisation is based on the inherited Summerian.
If you want to go further, Assyrian are semitic people when Summerian are supposed to be Indo-European. Now the nomadic people on camels of today are semitic too (it is established so because of the language) but a whole kind different to Assyrians or antique Egyptians who are semitic too. Don't you think so ?
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Good ole Janlefev, he's back with an explosion of hatred.
I am sure to you all arabs are the same, camel riding sand niggers. Not worth a dime. Hashish smokers.... oh - my - God! You are such a narrow minded racist! I have always laughed at your posts since the days of Sharereactor, mainly because you always managed to defend the indefensible, to launch tirades against the left or of islam. But then again, I understand your ignorant point of view, after all, these camel riding hashish smoking parasites have been flooding your country, and to merde with fraternite, egalite, liberte; these allahdamned bastards do not adjust to your norms, and le droite raciste shall rise victorious!
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What do you have to be afraid of?
The total supremacy of one nation that will do whatever it wants. And seeing how that one nation has lately operated, it's quite a disturbing thought.


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Again, I doubt he means it. I think he just got tired of all the useless whining... I don't know if it's the language (all of your English abilities are great BTW) or insight but you guys never seem to be able to read between the lines.
First: Thank you, we'll try our best.

Second: I understood he wasn't probably 100% serious. He's a smart guy, we've all witnessed that. I actually wondered if I should answer at all, but it's just too hard to let a post like that stay unanswered. I'm sure we all get tired sometimes of the whining and bitching that goes on in here, but we should still try to stay calm and maintain the reason in our posts. Otherwise this forum will become just another place for random rants.
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statistics is for losers.
polls show 75% of germans want a referendum about the EU, the government's response: "We do not need a referendum." matter closed.
You know what ?

Germans, French, Belgians could say yes or no to the EU constitution, it is all the same. The only thing that counts is whether the British say yes and they won't.

The problem is that the German and the French (and Belgian with a debt of 160% of the GDP) would shoot in their own foot if they say no, but they only would have to rewrite a constitution. Spain, Italy and EasternEurope countries have a geographic problem if they don't comply with those countries. Another way to solve their position problem is to turn their relation to Russia which they will never do.
However, that said, there may be a winning case for them if UK quits the EU and another Union is made apart from France and Germany under the cover of the US and UK lead through the NATO with Turkey joining and probably Switzerland. The great winner would be UK, especially if they join the Alena. Then France, Germany may have to build ties with Russia and Northern Africa, especially Marrocco. The later Union will be very fragile, especially because politically those 4 groups (Northern Africa would be very populated) are equal. This group of 4 entities may even ally India when the rest of Europe may prefer China (because China would prefer them).
The latter will happen if UK votes NO for the European constitution.
To counter that Germany may consider a referendum to obtain a NO and have to change the constitution to look appealing to the UK (France has already done that job earlier for the Euro and nearly missed to answer what the voters were supposed to).
People may be wondering why I presume that second weird European group. In fact considering France and Germany will be left alone, this Union will be the best they could have and mandatory for them to survive even as countries. on the contrary, if UK quits the EU and the US is willing to support a NATO based Union, which they already do, it is obvious those countries out of Germany France and Belgium which are unfitted countries for World competition would be relieved from the support they will have to bring to those socialist economies. There is a big unsatifaction among the newcomers to have France Germany and Belgium supporting socialism and Soviet style administration. This is even deeper considering that the opinions in those countries are basically hostile to the newcommers and Soviet Union mourners.
Another case applies to Spain which economy is usefull to the rest of Europe and may not suffer any export declining but will suffer tax and currency support for French and German fading economy. The only special case is Italy which may suffer being in any of those smaller Unions.
That said analyst already estimate UK GDP being on par with that of Germany and France together in 2025.
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However, that said, there may be a winning case for them if UK quits the EU and another Union is made apart from France and Germany under the cover of the US and UK lead through the NATO with Turkey joining and probably Switzerland.

As if the Swiss would join any political union in the next five billion years
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Yeah, and especially NATO....lol
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Then France, Germany may have to build ties with Russia and Northern Africa, especially Marrocco. The later Union will be very fragile, especially because politically those 4 groups (Northern Africa would be very populated) are equal.
morocco and libya have already applied for EU membership.
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it is obvious those countries out of Germany France and Belgium which are unfitted countries for World competition would be relieved from the support they will have to bring to those socialist economies.
our government has recently warned the new EU members, estonia, latvia and lithuania, as well as the tcheck republic, that they better raise taxes or else there would be sanctions, because their taxes are too low, which is "unfair". chancellor Schroeder said that to eliminate competition his ultimate goal is to enforce equal (high) taxrates in all EU countries.
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That said analyst already estimate UK GDP being on par with that of Germany and France together in 2025.
you and these analysts must be great visionarys with crystall balls. any predictions, that reach that far into the future cannot be taken seriously.
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:57 AM
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As if the Swiss would join any political union in the next five billion years
They already were part of such an union. They are still members of the EFTA.
The EFTA was an association of countries based on the same goal as the EU but meant to become a confederation established on Free Trade principles. In fact there were 3 unions in Europe in the 60s : the EEC, the Comecon and the EFTA. The members of the EFTA were UK, all Scandinavian countries, Switzerland and Austria. The GDP of that area was very near to that of the EEC, and ahead that of the Comecon.
Many people from the countries from that association hope to mold the EU into what the EFTA was. I think this is impossible with France and Germany inside EU.
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