If you could change ONE thing about the world, what would it be? - Page 4 - Video Games Forum

fatboy · #31 (**permalink**) 05-22-2004, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_G

Well, the number of unemployed would rise incredibly, since the US wouldn't need many ground forces anymore. And what about military spending being a big economical boost?

;)

No, remember that a large piece of our troops are National Guard; these people already have jobs they're missing right now. We need more cops on the street. We need more human intelligence out in the field (obviously). We'll need more border guards. We'll need more workers to make all the weapons we'll be selling to Middle Eastern countries so they can blow themselves up.

fatboy · #32 (**permalink**) 05-22-2004, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SwamP_ThinG

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Why is this continually popping up?
The highjackers were saudis in their majority, and the US army was occupying Saudi Arabia for much longer than they had to. Osama´s beef with the US was the 50.000 thousand US troops stationed in the Saudi desert, not Iraq. Osama and his ilk hated Saddam as much as the americans did. When the US began the first Golf war, he was probably hoping for the US to finish the job, and get rid of him, so that he could begin to set a permanent base of operations there. It was only ti´ll after the Gulf War, when the US refused to leave the bases in Saudi territory that Osama really turned on the US. It was only untill after the Gulf War that the bombings all over started. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. It was all a Saudi affair. Had the US left Saudi Arabia after the war, 9/11 might not have happened. Why did they stay? Why are they still there today? Saddam is gone, so why do they keep their bases there? They now have a whole country transformed into a giant US base, so why do they need the Saudis, knowing that their presence is causing serious trouble, and might ultimatly lead to the downfall of the government?
Iraq might have been the perfect excuse for the US to install themselfs in Saudi land then, but it´s not an excuse now. Nor was it in 2001, on 9/11.
If Osama had any problem with what was happening in Iraq, he would have made those planes fly 10 years earlier.

Thanks for restating what's already been said. You've done a fantastic job of keeping everyone in the loop.

BTW: If you get any newspapers in whatever group-home you live in, you might want to read a couple, or have your nurses read some to you. The US pulled out of Saudi Arabia last year.

muspell · #33 (**permalink**) 05-22-2004, 11:01 AM

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The US pulled out of Saudi Arabia last year.

And razed their military bases to the ground and hid the remnants deep in the desert? Source, fatboy?

fatboy · #34 (**permalink**) 05-22-2004, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by muspell

And razed their military bases to the ground and hid the remnants deep in the desert? Source, fatboy?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2984547.stm

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107947.html

"In Aug. 2003, following the U.S.-led war on Iraq in March and April 2003, the United States withdrew its troops stationed in Saudi Arabia."

muspell · #35 (**permalink**) 05-22-2004, 12:17 PM

Jeez. Can't believe I missed that. And not merely, as the bbc says, leaving a symbolic contingent around, but also transferring authority over the bases to the Saudi arabian air force.

http://www.saudi-us-relations.org/ne...rest-8-30.html