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Old 05-15-2004, 04:09 PM
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How boring...I'd rather kill myself than living in a standardized world. Besides, ever thought of the fact that not everyone wants the same? Or what if everyone does want the same thing (e.g. a pretty woman). Will she be fucked by some hundred pals?
Sorry, i donīt get it. What does wanting a pretty woman have to do with beeing "fucked by some hundred pals"?
Besides, you canīt just say "i want". Everybody wants. Wether you get it or not is a diferent story. You might want a pretty girl, but she might not want YOU. Make sense, dude.

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Since when are reasons needed to wage a war or to steal or to kill someone?
no classes....does this mean that the local dentist will earn as much as the guys picking up the dirt from the streets? I'd think twice before I went to such a highly motivated dentist....
On the other hand...I'd really like my own space shuttle. lol.
Tell of any war or conflict that started for no reason, i dare you. I DOUBLE dare you.
As for the dentist, you are forgeting one of the principals of comunism:
There arenīt any salaries, there is no paycheck in the mail at the end of the month. In a comunist world, everybody does their share for the common good. The baker makes bread for everybody, the textile factory makes cloths for everyone, the dentist takes care of everybodyīs teeth, the doctor takes care of the sick, the engineer makes houses for everybody. His payment is free food, free cloths, free everything. Everybody produces something someone else needs, and they exchange the product of their work with others. Money is unexistent. Nothing is bought, nothing is sold, everything is shared.

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Now you did it...I have tears in my eyes. Hail Marx! And to honor his great manifest, I'll change the PIN-numer of my ec-card to 1848 - just before I give it to the next best homeless person and start a new life as mendicant.

Amen!
Do you have anything worthy to say, or are you just venting your frustrations on me? Iīm a very bad listener, when people only say what comes out of their asses. Try the local shrink, he will listen. If you can afford him...
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If I could change one thing, I'd travel back in time and make the cameras in the Whitehouse capture how the plans to go to war with Iraq actually happened, and then in advance hire Bush the best lawyer possible to prepare the case which would be sure to get him off the hook, no matter how desperate his case was. Then, when the charges against him would be dismissed, in spite of the heavy evidence against him, people would see sense, say to hell with it and never again expect any seriousness from Washington, and elect Conan O'Brien President instead. The legislative branch would be dismantled and then reinstated as a weekly rotation between the major newspaper's columnists and literture critics for science fiction. Lawyers would be busy trying to reestablish their credibility after the Bush "incident". World leaders would be invited to settle their issues at Camp David amongst a camera crew, a live audience, and a band to accompany the threats and promised reprecussions. And no issue would stay unresolved for more than 30 minutes, so as to fit the TV- schedule. Musharaf would be called up in the middle of the night to answer questions about his Afghanistan policy and his haircut, and Ozzie Osbourne would be Brien's political adviser - Colin Powell and Rice would frequently be called in as the expert panel to settle why the President's demands for steps in the Middle east process would be sensible, and as interpreters for the vice precident.

But I might go with beer in the faucets, that was a very good suggestion.
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Everybody produces something someone else needs, and they exchange the product of their work with others. Money is unexistent. Nothing is bought, nothing is sold, everything is shared.
Good thing greed and selfishness was removed as well.
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Thatīs what so great about comunism. In itīs pure form, comunism is the solution for all that is wrong with the world. Everybody owns the same, everybody eats the same, dresses the same, drives the same.
That has absolutly nothing to do with communism. Its more a westeren myth...
On other things i agree (more or less).
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Old 05-17-2004, 09:25 PM
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That has absolutly nothing to do with communism. Its more a westeren myth...
On other things i agree (more or less).
Actually, no! The western myth is thinking that comunism is what you see in China or the former USSR. Thatīs the real myth.
There hasnīt been any REAL comunist country yet.
When people mention the word "comunism", the first image that comes to their minds is a police state, totalitarism, brutality, poverty, and bla bla bla.
But that is not comunism.Not at all, far from it!
Just as the name hints to, comunism is about comunal living. Sharing, working for the betterment of the comunity, self suficient and self contained. Money has no meaning in a community, the only "currency" is your own work and the product of your work.
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The most amusing thing is that none of the countries, beleived by the West to be communist, has even claimed to be such. Neither USSR, nor China, nor Cuba... None.

That said, it's good to see a Westerner with immunity to the popular misconceptions. Though it doesn't really matter, for communism will not be implemented for a few hundred years, or so
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The most amusing thing is that none of the countries, beleived by the West to be communist, has even claimed to be such. Neither USSR, nor China, nor Cuba... None.
Hasn't The Communist Party of China been the sole party in power in China for about half a century? And isn't its ideology quite heavily influenced by communist ideas? Isn't it the party's goal to create a communist social system in China?

It may not be communism in a "pure" form or "real" communism, but to me it seems that China is a somewhat communist country.
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Hasn't The Communist Party of China been the sole party in power in China for about half a century? And isn't its ideology quite heavily influenced by communist ideas? Isn't it the party's goal to create a communist social system in China?
1. Yes. But the Party still doesn't claim to have communism in china
2. Not exactly. It's the Mao Tse Dung's interpretation of communism that is implemented. And many would argue that his interpretation is such that it makes Marx roll over in his grave.
3. Doesn't seem to be. They don't even have a free health system. And their economic reforms are aimed at creating some kind of controlled capitalism.

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It may not be communism in a "pure" form or "real" communism, but to me it seems that China is a somewhat communist country.
To some extent, yes. As are all the countries, commonly refferred to as "communist"
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I would stop all aid from America to other countries, including American soldiers on foreign lands.
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1. Yes. But the Party still doesn't claim to have communism in china
2. Not exactly. It's the Mao Tse Dung's interpretation of communism that is implemented. And many would argue that his interpretation is such that it makes Marx roll over in his grave.
3. Doesn't seem to be. They don't even have a free health system. And their economic reforms are aimed at creating some kind of controlled capitalism.
http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/35611.htm


2. His interpretation is still based on Marxism and others ideas.

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The CPC uses Marxism, Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought and Deng Xiaoping Theory as the guidance in its action. Since its inception, the Party has considered Marxism and Leninism as its guiding ideology. During the long-term revolutionary struggle, the CPC members represented by Mao Zedong integrated the general theory of Marxism-Leninism with the practice of Chinese revolution and founded Mao Zedong Thought.
3. May seem that way, but they still say it is.
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I would stop all aid from America to other countries, including American soldiers on foreign lands.
Why?
Something like the Marshall plan after WW II also helped the US in the long run.
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