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Old 08-22-2004, 02:07 PM
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Question Do you know the truth ?

First of all, I want everyone to be as objective as possible, OK ? Thank you.
Now, do you know the truth about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict ? How it started and why...Who do you think is at fault, who is the true terrorist ?
We'll try to stay away from the people since there are all kinds of them in every country each with an opinion, I'm talking about the governments. I guess you can talk about the people if you want to as well. Since it seems kinda of unavoidable. Share what you know and what you think, so we can all hopefully know the real truth.
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Old 08-28-2004, 09:14 AM
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eh, nevermind then.
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There were different proposals after the second world war to provide the Jews their own country. One of them was e.g. to send them all to Madagascar!
But since the end of the 19th century Jews already started to go back to Palestina. Most of them were coming from eastern Europe where mass murders were usual and encouraged by the governments.
Now the UN commited one of its first big stupidities in 1947 by creating the state of Israel. I mean: if you have a look at the 1947 map such as designed by the UN, you will see that this country was made of enclaves in Palestinian territory.
Don't forget that Palestians were living there for centuries.
Who's fault is it?
1. The Romans - back to the year 70.
2. Europeans who murdered and banned Jews during almost 20 centuries.
3. Too many people not enough room.
4. Religion at both sides.

Is there any solution?

I don't think so.
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Old 09-28-2004, 05:52 PM
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Neither groups are terrorist...

Both are people..US backs Israel and wants them to be a country. So thats why, the land is getting stolen from the Palestines and given to the Israeles. and the UN is "dead" in this matter. So is the rest of the world. The power of the US is incredible, and the other countrys have no say on anything.
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Neither groups are terrorist...

Both are people..US backs Israel and wants them to be a country. So thats why, the land is getting stolen from the Palestines and given to the Israeles. and the UN is "dead" in this matter. So is the rest of the world. The power of the US is incredible, and the other countrys have no say on anything.
Don't forget, it was the UN and not the US who created Israel. The UN decided that land would be "stolen" from the Palestinians (although the Palestinians were free to remain and in fact encouraged to to so). The British controlled the land from 1920 until 1948 and supported the Arabs who lived there. The UN decided to partition the land between the Jews and Arabs when floods of Jewish refugees had made their way into the area making Jews the majority. This partitioning was rejected by the Palestinian Arabs and they attacked the new Jewish settlements in 1948 (they attacked the town of Tirat Tzevi). Neighboring Arab nations joined in these attacks. The Israel Defense Army was established and counterattacked driving back the Arabs. As we all know, fighting has occurred sporadically on both sides ever since.

Israel exists largely because of the UN General Assembly resolution on November 29, 1947 for the establisment of a Jewish state in Palestine.

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If I remeber a certain documentary correctly the Palestines stole the land from the Jews first, why shouldn't they be able to take it back?
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:24 PM
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Jewland came out of nowhere...Un is a gay fag homo crew. I am pissed.
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...What the fuck? Un?
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:29 PM
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Don't forget, it was the UN and not the US who created Israel
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:37 PM
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Sorry, you didn't capitalize and thus I thought you were saying Un.
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