Or, perhaps, have their air force destroyed, shot while protesting, or hacked to death with machetes.

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At first, I was shocked. Then, I realized who I was debating with. Let me post YOUR definition again for you:

"A tendency of nations to conduct their foreign affairs individualistically, characterized by minimal consultation and involvement with other nations, even their allies."

I've bolded the important parts of the definition.

Ahhh, forget it. Let's go back to the easiest maxim: US=Bad, Europe=Good. Meanwhile, Europe can continue to pretend to be important, and the US will continue to make a difference. At least, with my new knowledge, I can see your perpetual tantrums for the farce that they are.

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Heh. So what's worse, shooting protesters, or bombing a marriage ceremony ?

I don't quite get the machete part. Give me a break with their "air force", two lousy sukhois, pleeeease...

Europe does not exist (apart from on a map), so i assume you are talking about the EU, which is just a group of nations that have signed some trade and economic agreements and have themselves organised to be able to discuss somewhat effectively. That you see the EU as a whole means that these countries dont act unilaterally very often and/or that you think in terms of them/US, black/white, "if you're not with us you're against us".

That the EU organisation tries to be important is normal. Every organisation tries to make itself important.

There is no doubt that the US makes a difference. The problem is that they do it with arms, it changes the situation for the worse (apart from for a few oil and arms dealers and their friends) and it destabilizes trust relations of which some have taken more than a century to build. And why, because the Bush has to show the world that he has a bigger dick than his dad. This guy is not leading a nation, he is playing games with his friends, the wanker.

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The president is a very good democratic president, probably one of the best ever.
Until the coming into action of the constitution, it is hard to consider that the democratic eu is able to act unilaterally since their global stance is the result of consultations made accordingly to a set of predetermined rules.
Once the constitution is on, this will be another story since foreign policy is one of the main advances in that new treaty, gathering the whole decisional power in the hands of a few. This mean that soon the democratic eu will be able to act unilaterally , more like a constituted nation rather than a patchwork of nations as it is now.

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I missed your reply...
Foreing affair: Affairs concerning international relations and national interests in foreign countries.
Since is far from it.
A tendency of nations to conduct their foreign affairs individualistically, characterized by minimal consultation and involvement with other nations, even their allies.
Now i bolded important part as well. Now look at my reply at marlin and stop acting like a litle kid. All you do is cry how US = bad, EU =good. No one said its like that... its far from it.