There is an investigation underway into abuses/torture at the Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad. Apparently, the prison workers werent even familiar with the language of the Geneva Conventions:

This is incredible, and very bad news for the US occupation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3669331.stm

omg. the stupidity of some people is increadible:
it's his f***ing job! he may not have had any training in iraq, but i guess he
had some in virginia. i just hope they throw these guys into an iraqi prison.

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There were prisoners with wires attached to their genitals, and this genius just says that he "had never been told how to deal with prisoners, or what lines should not be crossed."

If someone don't know without someone telling him if it's okay to attach wires to a prisoner's genitals when you're guarding him, then that someone must be one of the dumbest people on earth. And that someone gets even more extra credit for stupidity if it's that someone's real life job to guard prisoners....

Interesting to see what comes out of this. Will they get real punishments, or will the case be silently swept under the rug when nobody's interested anymore.

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actually i don't think that this "guard" is stupid. he just hopes that the justice
system is stupid enough to let him go and to prosecute only his superiors.

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Well, I don't actually believe either that he's mentally handicapped. But he claims to be that, by saying he doesn't know anything if someone doesn't tell him.

And even though he may not be retarded, he still is one stupid son of a bitch for two reasons:

1. Doing such things to the prisoners
2. Thinking he can get away with it by blaming someone else

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Whoever wants to see a video clip is better do so now, before it is removed.
Here

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This is the sort of thing one would expect from Saddam´s regime. It only comes to prove that the US doesn´t live up to the self-imposed human rights sanctity image.
The more reason why this occupation is insane. Why change a "bad regime" for another "bad regime"? Diferent shit, but the same stinky smell...

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one big problem is that while i don't doubt that saddam and his regime did anything
they wanted and killed people to their liking, they didn't have a general hatred of
the arab people inside them. many accounts show that these feelings are inside
soldiers that are serving in iraq. they make the iraqi responsible for 9/11, for being on
a holy war and for just being backward ragheads shooting at them. i don't see how
such a biased occupying force could possibly be a lesser evil.

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The report I read (N.Y. Times) said:

In other words: by guys in civilian clothes, not military uniforms.

Who the hell do you think first reported this? The US military did! Doh! One of the other American guards saw it and complained about it to his commander. The commander informed the Army and the Army informed the press and they informed everybody else, including you I guess. You really need to get a grip, SwamP_ThinG, I think you're really starting to loose it somewhat, buddy. Read the facts, and then post.

And, as I've said before: you can't judge an entire military organization or country based upon the actions of a couple fucked-up individuals - that just is not right. If a few individuals were incredibly irresponsible that's their failing, it certainly does not mean that everybody else knew of or agreed with their behavior. They have to take full personal responsibility for their own actions. The way you make it sound the US officially condoned this - and nothing could be further from the actual truth.

Lets get the facts straight here: a fellow US soldier (guard) reported this shit to his commander in the first place, and the US military, to it's credit, has fully and voluntarily reported the entire incident factually, they accepted overall responsibility for their own failures that allowed this to happen in the first place, and they immediately began taking steps to correct that situation and to make sure it never happens again.

They did NOT try to hide it or deny it or sweep it all under the rug, now did they? Did they? They certainly could have, easily enough. They totally controlled the prison itself and all the people involved, including the soldier that reported the problem. Nobody would ever have known if they had just decided to bury the incident completely. And a lot of other nation's armies would have done exactly that. Including the armies of a lot of the oh-so-righteous, high-and-mighty saints that regularly post in here, I'd wager.

Give some credit where credit is due, you perfectly flawless assholes.

Uh, who needs to get a grip here, again?

Excuse me, but isn´t that exactly what has been done everywhere, through the course of history? When fingering Saddam´s regime of torture and abuse, the entire country is accused, but only a few were actually to blame. The entire population of Iraq was not guilty of torture, only a few were, just like this case. But no one thought about that when they decided to pin sanctions on the entire population, along with mentions on Human Rights reports, did they?
The State is always responsible for the acts of its subordinates.
When the world condemned Germany for the gas chambers, do you think the entire 85 million germans were guilty of torture? Only a few actually tortured, only a few actually abused, raped, or killed prisioners. But the whole country had to pay dues!
Throughout history the many have always suffered for the few. Why should the US be any diferent?
When condemning Fidel Castro and his regime, dids it ever occur to you that not all cubans are torturers, rapists and abusers? So why blame Cuba the country? Why don´t you blame only the cubans who commited such things?
Get a grip yourself, buddy!! I know you are just tooting your own horn, but lighten up! If your going to go all righteous about this, try sticking to one standard alone. Using double standards, depending on where you stand on the fence is just plain pittyfull.

Why should you take credit only for the good things, and not the bad things that your country has? When it´s a good thing, it´s all about "WE". When it´s a bad thing, it automaticaly becomes "THEM"? What is this?


Oh, btw, the soldier "came forward" my ass!!
The US Army only admitted to anything after CBS aired the piece in "60 minutes"

"The US Army confirmed the suspension after American network CBS broadcast images of US troops mistreating Iraqi prisoners."

Did you even bothered to read the article? Hadn´t the piece been aired, this thing would have never come to light, and you know it.
A General was suspended for it. If only those few "fucked up individuals are to blame, why is she being suspended then,uh? Out of pitty? Duh...

Practice what you preach.

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