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Old 08-30-2008, 02:32 AM
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Hi Jeff,

Okay, I finally got what you were asking for. Didn't know about banned prayers in the US, which here, is almost the opposite. From my 1st grade to college years, I recalled that we have prayed in before and sometimes after classes. The government has no problem with it. People are free to practice their religion here and there hasn't been much conflicts that arise from religion.

But still, I reiterate my views. Prayer is prayer and it isn't intended to promote religion. Perhaps the problem here is the word "promote" which by our usage would fall into the definition of "To urge the adoption of; advocate; attempt to popularize by publicity; and to establish or organize." Looking at these definitions, prayer isn't intended for any of these. But ironically, prayers in groups would pose an image of promotion to religion.

As to your constitution, I'm a little confused as to the interpretation of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF...". By this clause alone, can banning be allowed? I also remember some issues regarding majority and minority religions, as to why the majority population being Christians, being allowed practices while for example, Muslims, the wearing of their (scarfs?) or (toga?) not allowed. I also seem to recall, the 10 commandments that was placed on some building in Washington is being also asked to be brought down because it violates the separation of state and religion. Well, it's all very confusing to me, being that there are many conflicts and factors surrounding it, also with the prayer.

If asked what were my views, for example if I'm Muslim and I see a holiday sign, I would not let it affect me and understand that the country is inhabited by a majority of this religion. But, if it would already be discrimination because of religion, then it's a different thing. I'd say live and let live.
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