Those are decent PCs.
I had a 9800 Pro in my old desktop, but the laptop I have now is like x9999999 times better. Only drawback is the 3.0 GHz processor, which I can update to 4.0 GHz anytime. I needed a gaming rig, but something movable. So I got mine from
www.widowpc.com
I think there was a similiar thread like this way back.