Punkus,

You still sidestepped the questions. Your answers are answers of an idealistic society that doesn't exist. I asked you to relate your answers to the world we currently live in. Look at human beings today and see if your answers would work.

From your anwers, however, I read the following. You want a world of no freedom. You want everyone to be controlled by the government. The government is a totalitarian government that rules with an iron fist. This government will kill anyone who consumes something "unnecessarily" (whatever that means). This government will wage war mercilessly without caring about the civilian lives that it will damage. To impose its will on other nations and other societies with different values, your nation will attack as many countries as disagree with it. It won't engage in any meaningful discussion but instead will intimidate allies and enemies with the might of its military.

The peace that you want is the peace of slavery, tyranny and the grave. Any who oppose your ideals will be executed. Those who remain in your society will be slaves to your ideals. Allies (assuming your nation allows any other countries to exist) would live in fear of your invading armies. That simply isn't peace. The logical reaction to such a totalitarian regime is rebellion. It may take a while to build, but most human beings wish to be free. They want to make their own choices. They become stifled when confined and react violently against such confinement. This isn't surprising, because all living things are the same in this regard. All living beings wish to grow and expand. When confined, they strain aginst their confinement.

Your statements suggest that regardless of what the people want, you will impose uniformity on them under penalty of death. They'll all have to learn one language and if they don't, you shoot them, right? If someone breaks a law, execute them.

A person in your community doesn't have incentive to work. After all, you'll feed them or shoot them, right? Are you going to execute someone who doesn't do their daily tasks? What if they cannot? Will you execute those who are too sick to work? They aren't contributing to the community and they are using resources (perhaps an unnecessary amount).

Let's say someone gets cancer and it will cost a huge amount of resources to cure them. Do you let them die? How do you replace their "work units"?

I'm sorry, but I can't see your answers leading to a "good" or "peaceful" outcome. I see them leading to despair, misery, slavery and death.

All that aside, this thread is about the current world. People are starving, in this world, today. Not in some hypothetical world that you made up. The "ideal" that you came up with doesn't matter unless you can show how to make it into a reality. Instead, let's look at the world that we currently live in and see how to fix it. I've given you one approach. Do you have any that would work in this world?

-- Jeff

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