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Old 12-05-2005, 05:19 PM
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Of course my approach isn't anything new. As i wrote before, I looked for a successful solution (which wasn't difficult to find) from history. You're right, it doesn't really "fix" the specific (the short term) problems, only the big problem, and I admitted as much earlier. The fact is that the specifics are not where the problem lies. They are only symptomatic. Fix the problem and the symptoms go away.

As to language (since you focus on it so much), language is only one part of assimilation. If one speaks the language, but doesn't assimilate into the culture, the lifestyle, of the French, then one is simply not integrated into French society. As you said, they don't feel like they are French. I suggest that it is because they haven't become part of French society yet. Immigrants in any country can have children, and their children are, generally speaking, automatically citizens of that country, but that doesn't mean they are integrated into the society, there's more to it than that.

I'm sorry you don't like long posts. The posts here are actually not the longest that I've written. I'm verbose in my thinking and my typing. This may be because I'm a fairly fast touch-typist, so these posts really aren't taking me much time to put out there. It may also be that I anticipate arguments that I expect from others, and since I generally only post once per thread per day (at most), I try to pre-emptively deal with them.
There is also, generally, some level of subtlety between different points that I make. I really do edit for repeated content, just for that reason, but If I leave something in, it is because, IMHO, it is significant (in the current post). I also restate, rather than refer back to previous posts (because I believe it is easier for the reader than having to go back and reread the thread each time).

I can't promise to reduce my post length (frankly, I don't really care to do so). If you don't want to read my posts, so be it. Of course many people who have not read my full posts, end up misquoting me when they post an opposing viewpoint, so if you want to discuss with me, understand that peril.

-- Jeff

ps As long as we're picking on writing style, the personal "shots" don't really help your posts. For example, the Nostradamus comment, the conservative blogs assumption or me not "getting it", are personal, not objective parts of the discussion. They don't bother me, but they suggest that you're out of points, so you're reduced to attacks to distract from your dearth of a substantive argument. Take your last post, you spent almost 2/3 of it on me rather than saying anything about the topic.
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