Don't get the wrong idea, it's not like we're outright against the noobs around here, it's just that we've been sold like 3 times recently, and each time it just gets shittier, plus a lot of the noobs that have come recently are kind of dumb.

This forum, at this domain, has been here since August, 2002, but a while ago it merged with Ochroma, which I think was older.

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