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Originally Posted by Guru
All I know is I am not bringing myself down to the level of an animal im a human not an animal and I did not come from an animal.
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From a scientific standpoint, we are indeed animals if only in the sense that we aren't anything else. There is no denying that we are mammals, vertebrates, etc. The argument is whether animals descended from a common ancestor, and from that standpoint, there isn't anything beyond a nonfalsifiable theory that has no experimentation or proof and only disputable evidence.
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Originally Posted by thunderbird
Science and religion never seem to get on ....
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As a scientist, I don't have a problem with religion. As a Christian, I don't have a problem with science. What I have a problem with, both as a Christian and as a scientist are hypotheses that don't fit into the scientific model. I also have a problem with these hypotheses being presented as facts in our culture (including in schools).
Darwin's evolutionary "theories" (better termed hypotheses; there were 5 major ones) were presented at a time when science thought that life was trivially simple. This occurred at a time when DNA wasn't discovered and when nobody understood the complexity of a single cell, let alone a genome. This also occurred when most universities were run by churches and, as such, scientific theories had to be approved by a theology department. Evolution was loved by scientists who no longer had to go to a theology department for approval (I agree with this, by the way), but the theories don't meet true scientific criteria and they don't mesh well with today's knowledge of the complexity of life. Still, the theories are loved by scientists despite the unscientific nature and poor fit of them in the real world.
As I've written before, I have no problem with evolution (or people who believe in it) as long as it is acknowledged (factually) as faith.
-- Jeff