Don't think FS10 will solve anything -- newer versions of FS in the past
have never helped decrease my fps. Even if they code true threaded
multi-CPU specific code, the issue isn't my Processor, it's the graphics
card memory limitations.
I'll hope the X850XT PE 512MB does find the retail market -- but it has been
5 months since it was shown to the world, so I assume it may just be
vaporware. In the future I plan to run 1990 x 1200, but not until I can
make 1600 x 1200 smooth -- it really is a shame nVidia can't get their SLI
setup to work with FS2004 -- two 6800 Ultra OC 512MB cards would be nice
providing 1GB of video memory. I have thought about switching to a single
6800 Ultra OC 512MB as those are currently available.
Rob.
"John" <diajohn2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%23M468aNiFHA.2664@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I think we will have to wait for FS10 for it to be able to help you. I do
>envy your system though but wonder why it runs so slow even at that
>1600x1200 setting.
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> John
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> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:e$KnN8JiFHA.1044@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> P4 EE @ 3.73Mhz 2MB on die cache 1.5GB 500Mhz rated memory at
>> CL2.5-3-3-7, ATI X800XT PE (570 GPU, 560 memory), two 74GB WD Raptor 10K
>> rpm SATA drives (RAID 0). FSB is running at 220Mhz with TWO external
>> Koolance water cooling units.
>>
>> My system consistantly produces some of the highest graphics scores I've
>> seen on the net (exceptions are those dry ice and/or liquid gas based
>> cooling systems) and has no problems with any other game/software.
>> However, with FS2004 I can easily bring frame rates to <5 fps using PMDG
>> 737 and weather (fluffy clouds at 80mi distance).
>>
>> I think the key to the poor performance in my system is that textures and
>> polygons push the 256MB ATIX800XT PE over the edge when running at 1600 x
>> 1200 32bit 4XAA and 8XAF. I haven't seen many folks that run FS2004 at
>> these graphics settings. I run 1600 x 1200 because that is the native
>> resolution of my monitor (21" LCD). If FS2004 didn't have serious
>> problems with SLI, I'd be running two nVidia cards (which would give me a
>> 512MB of video memory and cure my issues) -- but FS2004 is one of the few
>> programs that does NOT work in SLI mode -- which is unfortunate cause it
>> is perhaps the only program that REALLY needs to be able to.
>>
>> What I don't understand, what is FS2004 code doing such that it doesn't
>> work with SLI setup? If anyone can answer that question, I'll buy them a
>> meal & drinks.
>>
>> Rob.
>>
>>
>> "John" <diajohn2@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:e2LMPAAiFHA.576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Rob, I do not disagree with your post and was actually responding to jfb
>>> who thought add-on a/c were inferior to stock a/c in FS. Most of your
>>> comments seemed reasonable although, we tend to forget the small market
>>> size which limits what a developer can (or will) do. It doesn't seem to
>>> matter what computer and add-on's you have to suffer some framerate
>>> erosion. The processor simply has a lot more to do as the instructions
>>> get more complex. I believe many users have poor computer setups,
>>> insufficient memory and the wrong sliders set to the right. I don't
>>> find the default a/c operate a lot better than the LDS 763 or the
>>> PMDG737NG.
>>>
>>> Andy, I have less computer than your dad and run a host of add-on's
>>> including Ultimate Traffic maxed out and usually run at 19FPS. He may
>>> want to look at his settings to see what he can do. If he does not use
>>> it he may want to take a look at www.Avsim.com where there is a large
>>> community of heavy users who can give a lot of hints about maximizing
>>> your system. 4-5 FPS should never happen with his machine
>>>
>>> John.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eaFGvhlhFHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>I didn't meet the "profile" -- do you know how silly that sounds?
>>>>
>>>> Game vs. simulation debate -- it never ends. Regardless, how is going
>>>> to an external view in a FS2004 to look at the pretty details of an
>>>> aircraft distinguishing it from a "game" -- last I checked simulators
>>>> typically don't let you take a birds eye view of your aircraft, and
>>>> unless you develop wings neither can a pilot in the real world -- so
>>>> ask yourself which is more "game" like?
>>>>
>>>> So do you have anything technically inaccurate with my concerns over
>>>> 3rd party AC payware? You have not posted any real contradictions to
>>>> suggest my observations are inaccurate or false? Just pathetic
>>>> comments with no substance.
>>>>
>>>> Rob.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John" <diajohn2@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23yG4KMYhFHA.2372@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I don't think you meet the profile for those who like the payware
>>>>>aircraft such as the Dreamfleet 727, The LDS767 and the PMDG737NG. You
>>>>>don't want to fly an aircraft but to play a game. Play away.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rob R. Ainscough" <robains@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u$jKRd0gFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Too All those folks (and you know who you are) that are cashing in on
>>>>>> the add-on aircraft market:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. stop with the ridiculously low frame rates as compared to MS
>>>>>> default Aircraft
>>>>>> 2. learn how to optimize GMax
>>>>>> 3. Provide a simplified version of the Aircraft (frame rate
>>>>>> friendly -- no that doesn't mean just add 2D panels)
>>>>>> 4. Panels that NEVER match up to MS's standard control
>>>>>> configurations key set so I'm forced to re-program my GoFlight system
>>>>>> for every add-on aircraft
>>>>>> 5. Panels with NO obvious method of closing
>>>>>> 6. Overwriting the default MS GPS key
>>>>>> 7. Stop adding endless DLL's to the Modules dir to the point FS just
>>>>>> can't handle it any more
>>>>>> 8. Provide accurate step by step startup procedures for these
>>>>>> aircraft -- documentation is horrible and incomplete
>>>>>> 9. Check DLL conflicts BEFORE installing, don't just overwrite
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until you folks GET A CLUE, I'm not wasting any more money on your
>>>>>> products and will happily fly the free-ware products that: work
>>>>>> reliably, look great, fly great, sound great, and most importantly
>>>>>> don't turn my Intel P4 3.7 Ghz Extreme Edition 880Mhz FSB 1.5GB
>>>>>> 500Mhz Corsair Extreme RAM, ATI X800XT PE, WD Raptor 10K rpm RAID
>>>>>> system into a 5 fps crash to desktop nightmare!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else thinking of getting retail 3rd party Aircraft, you have
>>>>>> been warned!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Computer Pilot Magazine -- you need to be more responsible in
>>>>>> your reviews, one liners that hint at possible frame rate problems
>>>>>> should be more clear i.e. "you can't even fly this Aircraft unless
>>>>>> you turn EVERYTHING off or down".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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