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Old 08-20-2005, 12:58 AM
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[QUOTE=punkusmartyrus]-agreed. "Power never vanishes. If you do not wish to retain or wield it, somebody else will." & "Nothing can be unjust in the animal kingdom."
This directly contradicts your statment here:
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-definitely, if I don't blame myself for everything that happens to me then I am free to blame others as well, patriots fall into this category.
Since you acknowledge power exists and the strong are the ones who wield it, then they are the ones who have the power and make the rules and that is not unjust. As such, you cannot then blame the very ones who have the power for the rules they've made, they are just wielding their natural law power. In other words, the government currently wields the power, just as an animal kingdom leader would and the members of the herd/pack/pride/etc. simply have to obey because "nothing can be unjust." Your complaint boils down to this "I don't think it is just because I didn't make the rules." This is not a logical complaint. We never get to make all of the rules, even if we are the leader of the pack (proof: show me how being the leader will allow you to change the rule that you will die at some point).

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-ofcoarse, by cops on power trips.
Given this, aren't they simply equivalent to natural law alpha-males who are simply exercising their right of power over you as an omega animal? Explain how natural law will prevent this.

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- My "philosophy" is one of adaption, so I'm ever-learning, changing, expanding, improving... I'm dedicated to personal growth. That is the current root of my philosophy if there even is one. It's too eclectic to organize into a single philosophy at this point. I speculate the experiances of my environment play a key role in my prompting towards this philosophy. "Faith- not wanting to know the truth." -F.W.N.
I don't doubt that your personal experiences have a huge impact in your philosophy. This is true of most people and it is good that you might say so. It suggests that as you learn more, you can accept change and abandon untenable positions as well as accept new ideas. This is the basis of much education and growth. Interesting that you would quote Neitzsche (a man who was admittedly insane) in regards to Faith. Neitzsche never recognized a basic fact that all people (including him) hold faith in many unprovable things.

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