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Old 01-15-2005, 04:49 PM
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The final ISG report details how Iraq hid plans and proscribed imports. It details improved production methods in the chemicals industry, a covert network of laboratories for testing chemicals and poisons. Hidden stores of biological "starter kits" and a covert uranium enrichment programme. All of these, and more, constitute violations of at least one of the 17 UNSCRs on Iraq.
I assume all this was verified with ground inspectors?
Also reason for war Bush gave was that Iraq is immidiate threath to US.
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Because you don't have a case. It was a legal war. It was a continuation of hostilities due to Iraq's non-compliance with the cease-fire.
Wasnt that up to UN to decide? Or can US decide for entire UN now?
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If you want to contest that, then I suggest you have your representatives press the matter.
My representatives are busy sucking up to US. I also dont care anymore. People are completly fucked up already. They can barely think for themselfs...
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So, because your government stood up to the evil US, they're not pawns? But when another country believes contrary to yours, they're pawns? Like I said, you're arrogant and insulting.
My country did not stood up to US. When US asked for support (moral support only), US got it.
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Since I think Europe and it's leaders are greedy, spineless jack-offs who, though recognizing a threat, are too scared, or making too much money to do anything about it.
Well u got the "greedy" part right. Rest depends on a country.
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If you're going to claim that the US doesn't value democracy, and offer up non-democratic governments as proof, then stick with the analogy. Show me a democratic government, that had a national vote (as you must have in a democracy), yet went against the citizenry's wishes.
Not sure about other countries but here we didnt even have a vote on this. Our foreing minister openly supported US in its case against Iraq without any permition by president/parlament/people. When ppl started bitching about it we got a short explanation and nothing was done.
Spain also comes to mind since its involvment lead to change in goverment.
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Really? Turkey wants to be a democracy? Since when?
Dunno. But afaik they have elections to chose their leader. Thats rather large part of democracy.
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Then give me another explanation. Why is it that changes to the Kyoto Protocal were verbotten when the US was at the negotiating table, but accepted without question when Europe realized they wouldn't get the desired pound of flesh from the US?
Dunno nor do i care. But claiming its envy... really dun think politicians with a brain would get that low. As far as population(in my country) goes... definatly no envy at all. Closer to pity than envy. But we do have few rare examples that see US as gods gift to humanity.
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So the science is already figured out, eh? I thought lulu said it was "very much NOT figured out."
There is still lot in sience thats not figured out, but that part is. Fusion reactor "exploding" would do relativly minimal damage.
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And what effects of our pollution are you feeling? What world-wide destruction has the US wreaked? Please, be specific and bring proof.
US is on the other side of the world. Any polution there is shadowed by European polution. Also polution that actually does serious damage to enviroment cant be fealt since it takes decades for it to show damage.
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Yep, the US did specifically claim that Iraq had WMD. So did France, Germany, Russia, China - all members of the UNSC. They voted unanimously to have Iraq prove she did not. (Which makes me wonder, if my leaders knew there was a threat and chose not to act, what would that make them?)
All of em claimed Iraq had wmd? Never heard of it.
I also remember Iraq gave full access to inspectors to everything and provided paper evidence (iirc US "hijacked" those papers to take a look b4 others and passed em on later). All "evidence" US provided was refuted by inspectors that were in Iraq.
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The ISG report proves that Iraq was what the US claimed all along - a growing threat that was in violation of UN resolutions and needed to be dealt with.
A threath? lol
Well that was proved during war...
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I like this. You laugh at me, then admit you don't know what will happen. That's funny.
Well i do know and for it to explode it would have to be designed to explode(talking about large explosion).
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