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Originally Posted by muspell
No, no, no. You say: ah, but this means that if you want the americans to win, like you have said on several occations, you do revel in their pointless misery. Right?
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No, I say "ah" because I don't believe your sentiment. I think you're praying for America to fail and to fail spectacularly.
Most would define failure in either lives lost (and certainly one life lost is some sort of failure) or goals unattained. Since we've accomplished pretty much every goal we've set for ourselves in Iraq (reconstruction started and progressing, hand power over to the Iraqis) you're only source of joy comes from each US soldier killed. If a few civilians die in the mix then that's just more ammunition for your moral cannon. Nothing would please you more than to see America lose a few more thousand soldiers; have the fires of discontent stoked in the US like for the Vietnam war (a connection you like to draw); and for America to pull out with her tail between her legs. That is nirvana to you and the only acceptable outcome.
If the election happens in January, it will be one more milestone that will come and go without your dream being realized. But you’ll continue to hold out hope that Iraq will someday, somehow, devolve into a civil war and millions of civilians can be killed. In the meantime, you’ll be happy with the two or three Americans killed every day, and you’ll rub your hands with glee when the “insurgents” can actually take out a dozen or more.
It's interesting to see how interested Europe was in ensuring that Ukrainians got the leadership they chose, but aren’t willing to do anything to make sure Iraqis get the leadership they choose.