You are right and you make up yout point but i am not a hater for those i am just dont need them .And a question how can you play Unrela Tournament or Quake or similar game with your game pad and have the same results like on the pc or even stradegy game like Warcraft or C&C and many more .But i can say adventure game like final fantasy or Resident Evile or Legasy O Kain Defince i belive is best to be playd on the ps2 or Xbox Espesciali Rally Game Like WRC, Richard or Colin Mcray