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Originally Posted by *~$kAnDaLouZ~*
Well, we obviously have different takes on this. Because personally, I believe that when, from the moment you are born, you live in a country that was yours, now in a constant state of war. When your relatives are being killed everyday, their houses destroyed by bulldozer, when young children throwing rocks are mercilessly killed, sometimes whole families. I believe when a person suffers that, and goes to blow him/herself up in enemy territory. I think no, they are not terrorists. I think, they should try to be more organized and try to kill enemy leaders. People who order these srtikes on their families.
An Israeli terrorist group, it's one big one. The army. They attack civilians clearly. Unless that has been omited from the news you get wherever you are you probably know that.
You are free to take this discussion wherever you like, if I'm not happy with how it is going I would blame my own ignorance and lack of information. This is my email: mr_makaveli86@hotmail.com
Email me after a while, I will hopefully provide you with a good source on that info. I can't now since I'm on dial up and I'm very busy with studying. Email me if I seem to forget in about two months. I really want you to get the whole picture here.
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I'll start with the end. I won't be emailing you on this topic. Sorry, but I'm busy enough without yet another thing to pursue (I work for a living, raise a family, maintain my home, occasionally read something interesting and discuss on this board). If you wish to discuss, I'll be here.
The Israeli army is under the control of the Israeli government. That is a pretty important statement because it does mean the army is under control. In general, the army or the government has some justification for the actions they take including the targets that they are pursuing. You've read what I wrote regarding valid targets. I don't often find myself at odds with the targets they've chosen, but you are right, occasionally, they do choose targets that are not valid. As I wrote before, the UN has imposed several resolutions against Iraq and the US has, many times, demanded their withdrawl from areas and has succeeded in this. The difference between an army and a terrorist group is that if an army officer or soldier does commit an act of terrorism, they are prosecuted. We don't see this happening with Hamas.
As I wrote before, I blame both sides in this conflict. Nobody has the moral high ground here. Nobody can say they are the victim. Both need to stop the terrorism.
I'm all for calling a spade a spade. If someone commits a terrorist act, they are terrorists. If they can show a target to be a military target, that would be the only defense. If a 14 year old bombs a military checkpoint, I view this differently than if the 14 year old bombs a restaurant. The checkpoint is a military target, the restaurant, even if it has military people, has civilians, and the bombing would indiscriminately kill these civilians.
I've discussed ownership of the country before, and frankly, very few people are left in this area who were alive prior to this nation being Israel. We know, however, that Israel has stated a willingness to create a state of Palestine. We know that Rabin and Arafat made some great strides towards this happening, and we know that these strides were made over a period of time when neither side committed any terrorist acts. It is possible to have peace in this area, but it requires compromise, patience, a cessation of all terrorist acts, and time.
-- Jeff