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Originally Posted by SwamP_ThinG
But the witnesses on the ground say they were just firing into the air, in celebration.So yes, there were shots into the air, Yankeefan.
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So, then you agree that there were guns in the area, and they were being fired into the air.
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Originally Posted by SwamP_ThinG
So, would be fair to say that if they were fired upon, there must be some bullit holes in the chopper, hummm? Can we see them? Anyone wounded?
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OK... Firing into the air has already been established. Do they need to hit something in order to have someone fire back at them? If a cop is on the street and someone pulls out a gun and starts shooting, should the cop wait until he's hit before returning fire? Or, should they assess the potential threat and take action?
OH... You fire at a military helicopter at night and see if you can hit it accurately. I'd also like to see you put a hole in one. They have this little thing on them called "armor". :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by SwamP_ThinG
Cīmmon, youīre not really serious on this, are you? You think the iraqis drive around with 40 dead bodies in the trunk of the car, hoping to stumble on a bombed site to drop the bodies all over and later accuse the US?
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I'm not saying that someone was driving around with 40 dead bodies. BUT, I am suggesting the possibility that the wedding party was a front for a military base. Call them 'human shields' or 'unwilling participants'. Unless you live in South Central LA, I can't understand why you'd have that many people around with guns at a wedding.
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Originally Posted by SwamP_ThinG
The incident was filmed. The press was there within minutes, along with ground troops. You donīt think they would notice a few guys carrying dead bodies into the place, hmmm?
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Hmmm, indeed! The incident was filmed. I wonder why there'd be video cameras present at a wedding in Iraq? Do you think the press was just arriving to capture the beauty of an Iraqi wedding? OR could it be that the cameras were there to capture the "outrage" of a wedding being fired upon? Sounds like the perfect set up to me. "Cameras rolling... OK guys, start shooting at those American helicopters. We're going to really get them good this time. This will be all over CNN by tomorrow. HaHaHa."
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Originally Posted by SwamP_ThinG
The wedding party was real. There was a bride, there was a groom, there were guests, whole families, therefore ipso facto there was a marriage.
Another FACT is that several women and children were killed. So what is there to doubt about?
Even if it wasnīt a marriage, the women and children would still be dead!
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Wait a minute... You've got me confused. You start off by saying that the wedding was real. Then, you end with "even if it wasn't a marriage". So, which is it? Was there a wedding or not? You seem to be a bit confused here. Is it because you are now doubting the truth behind this so called "wedding"?
Yes. Women & children were killed. If they happen to be in the area where there's a bunch of people shooting into the air, they got what they deserved. Yes. I just said that! If you're standing around in a crowd and they suddenly start shooting, do you think you're just going to stand there? Or, are you going to get the heck out of a bad situation?
How many times in the past have the Iraqis used civilians (women and children are their favorites) as shields? They parade the media in to get good shots of the little kids blown apart. What were they doing there in the first place? Any decent mother would remove her kids from the path of harm, UNLESS they were being duped into staying there, or being held.
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Originally Posted by SwamP_ThinG
Hell, even i fire into the air during new yearīs eve!! Should i be worried?
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A bit off topic, but I'd say yes, you should be worried. When you discharge a fire arm into the air, that bullet has to come down at some point in time. It's lethal on the way down too. Firing a gun into the air is actually illegal in most places in the US. You may not see the consequences, but what if you hit someone a few blocks over? Firing a gun into the air, even if you're not likely to be attacked by an Apache is still not a very smart thing to do.
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Originally Posted by SwamP_ThinG
Oh, by the way, itīs true that they always have a camera filming the strikes, so itīs to be expected that there is a footage on that particular bombing run. If the US military is so confident of what happened, how about releasing it?
They release any other footage, so why not this one too? Or maybe they are hidding something?
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So they should just release the video the second someone complains about something? Assuming they did capture what was going on, I'm sure we'll see the video soon enough. Right now, it's evidence. You don't just release that stuff without first seeing what's there. IF they swooped in and took out a wedding without provocation, I'm sure that will lead to another inquiry. You just have to give it time.