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Originally Posted by fatboy
Perhaps in your country. In America we spend approximately $7,000 per student per year (more than any other country, I believe). Even private education averages out to only about $4,000/student/year. You may be right when considering the opportunity cost of the family's lost income due to the fact that one parent must give up their career, but in strict monetary terms I would bet homeschoolers do a much more efficient job of teaching children (speaking from first hand experience and anecdotal evidence only).
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Yes, I was taking into consideration the loss to the national economy that results from one parent staying home.
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Though off topic, I don't know how gun control laws contribute to Billy's desire to murder his classmates. Seems to me Billy isn't too concerned about laws.
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Maybe if every 14 year old didn't have his own gun Billy also would've had to reconsider his plan?
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Still, I wonder how your system discourages the normal human desire to just fit in and get along with the group, regardless of personal opinions?
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Almost everyone in Finland have gone to public school and still there exists opinions from the right to the left and everything between in here. According to you we should be pretty unanimous since we have been all molded together in school. And all people, even homeschooled ones, are a part of different groups all their life: family, work, hobbies etc. So can we say everyone is just a group-thinker?
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We just had a case here where an older kid beat the shit out of a younger kid on a bus. Surely, he has no concept of how to deal with kids outside his age group. Is he the norm? No. Could he be saved with homeschool? Who knows? But it's clear he doesn't belong in a public school setting.
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There are lots of sick and stupid people out there. Still, I wouldn't blame it all on public education. I would blaim the parents, environment and circumstances more.
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Really? You don't think there is school violence in European schools? Even Finland has its share of assaults:
http://www.gold.ac.uk/connect/reportfinland.html
(Guess you'd better ban arms, legs, hands, baseball bats, spades, electric cord, knives.)
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No, I don't think there's no school violence at all in Europe.
The last homicide in a Finnish school happened 25 years ago and there are approximately 2-3 more serious incidents of violence a year. I wouldn't call that a lot. We have no need to install metal detectors and hire armed guards.
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Then why have standardized tests at all? Shouldn't we have tests that account for one parent families, lower income, skin color, emotional well being, etc.? Thankfully, no. You see, once you get out of your primary education, the world doesn't care that your daddy didn't hug you enough, or that you didn't get enough toys when you were a baby. The world only cares that you can do the job you're in and that you can get along with others. And rightfully so.
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If the groups of homeschooled children would include children from all ethnic/income etc. groups and all areas just as the groups of publicly shooled children, then the results would be comparable. In order to isolate the contribution of homeschooling compared to public shooling all other factors should be excluded or the results won't be reliable.
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That's your job  !
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My fingers and brain are starting to ache over this thread. I'm beginning to feel I will resign any moment now...