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Originally Posted by Phunkie
First of all I don't believe Bush was actually too afraid of Saddam's "mighty wmd arsenal", and I don't either believe that the wmd were the main reason for the attack.
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But it shows, as I think you'll agree, that an action either predicated or couched as predicated on belief, rather than absolute certainty, is a dangerous game to play. Then we must question, as you have, whether the risk of being wrong and committing the act outweighs the risk of being right and doing nothing.
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And on the contrary to your example almost none of the world leaders except for Blair shared Bush's faith.
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Like you, I don't want to get into this again, but I think it important to dispel this myth. As David Kay has said, "France, Germany, Britain and Russia all agreed on one central fact – Saddam Hussein had sought weapons of mass destruction and was believed to have maintained stockpiles of these WMDs." Even
Iraqi generals believed it.
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There may be situations where torture could be used, but if it was lawful it would be used in situations that wouldn't require it.
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There may be situations where it would be
desireable for the state to use torture, but IMO there is no situation where it should.