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Old 05-15-2004, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Boiler
most people are more intelligent than bush, but they will never earn as much money regardless how hard and long they work.
The president of the US really doesn't earn that much, particularly if you consider the hours they typically "work". Clinton actually signed the legislation effectively giving a raise to all future presidents. He doubled the salary from $200,000 to $400,000. I do realize that $400,000 is quite a lot of money, but there are still plenty of opportunities for intelligent individuals to earn that much, if not many times more.

I should also point out that I do not believe in compensation for ANY public office. If you are serving the public, you should be doing it for free.


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Originally Posted by Boiler
for europeans, bush is a reminder of royal times: as long as you had the right father, it didn't matter how big a dumbass you were.
Bush Jr. still had to get to where he is today mainly on his own. Bush Sr. could not have possibly given him every office he's ever had, or the experiences that helped to propel him to the front of the Republican party, and eventually into the presidency. I think it's a bit too easy to fall back on the 'daddy did this for him' theory.

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Originally Posted by BlackBlood
here are my reasons for hating bush with pashion:
1. he stole the election from gore
That's a bit old to be bringing up. There isn't any difinitive answer to whether or not Bush should have won, or Gore should have won. Argue as much as you like, but there is no difinitive answer to this question. I would also point out that Bush did not steal anything. If anything, he was elected by a mistake in the voting system. Theft is not something that should be mentioned here.

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Originally Posted by BlackBlood
2. the economey went to the dogs after he took office
The US economy runs in cycles. Each cycle takes months to years to fully set up. The policies (tax cuts, etc) that Bush has implemented in his first 4 years won't fully impact the US economy during that 4 year time span. The economy tanked because of policies that Clinton enacted.

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4. our armed forces are bad seince he took office
In what sense? Bush gave a pay raise to the armed forces. He's been very supportive of the US troops. How exactly are they "bad"?

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Originally Posted by BlackBlood
5. civilians keep dying because of that mess, including the beheading of nick burg by iraqies and the abouse of iraqie prisoners by our solders
Nick Berg's incident is a tragedy, as is every death that has taken place. The civilians are there for either private security or for rebuilding efforts. Bush has absolutely nothing to do directly or indirectly with their deaths. They are in harms way by their own choosing. It's different than that of a soldier who has been sent to Iraq on a mission. Nick made the choice himself to go to Iraq.


I think the biggest difference that I see with most people is that they actually hate Bush - the man. I may not like all of his policies, but I certainly don't hate him as a person.

It's extremely easy to 'coach from the stands'. None of us will ever truly know the pressures of being the leader of a nation. None of us will ever know all the information that the world leaders are privy to. None of us will fully understand the impact of every decision that world leaders must make on a daily basis. Yet, it's some sort of God given right to criticize and rant/rave over how we'd run things if we were in office.

Being critical of a decision is fine. Disagreeing with a decision is fine as well. But some people take things a bit too far and get so worked up over things. That's just not the way to live your life.

I don't like everything that Bush has said/done, but I'm much more concerned with my own life and how I'm living it, than to sit around hating Bush.
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