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Originally Posted by Grisu
You know what? Immigrating to almost any country is a pain in the ass.
I wouldn't know as I only filed papers in the US. After this ordeal I will gladly not do that again....
Amnesties are funny too when you take a look at them. It's like, "You MUST prove to us that you lived here illegally between xx/xx/xx and xx/xx/xx and we will give you a shiny new green card!" Do something illegal and be rewarded.
My point exactly... It is a slap in the face to anybody that worked his way through the freaking system and did everything by the book (and paid dearly for it).
However, the "ridiculousness of the american bureaucracy" in general is nothing compared to the shit I had to do/pay while I lived in France. I lived in other countries also, but I'd have to say that the US is where you have to deal with the least administrative BS.
I am glad to be German. I didn't have to worry about it in France, the UK and here... ;) The EU is good for something... It costs enough freaking tax money to be part of it.
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I heard it is is difficult for Canadians to move to the US as for Europeans from the EU. Living in France for many years, I can have a job whenever I ask for in LA (CA).
Problem is I may not pay fewer taxes and living in LA is not cheap. I don't pay the taxes the French do and I got rid of the French social system which nearly doubles my income compared to a French, but my status may change if I keep living in France (more than 10 cumulative years may be enough). This is especially true about taxes since there are EU laws to protect me against the French laws regarding their Social Security. However I don't want to move from France only because of taxes but because things have gotten worse every year I have spent in this country and the effects are noticeable now in very basic areas of life and people having become rude and soured like nowhere else.
I am just concerned about what is easier. To go there and make all my papers or make anything possible in France. As I may not work with the same company, I won't get any support in France. I just don't want to cool my heels in crowds of common people from the third world while fixing problems with job and home.
Everybody I asked was unable to give me decent information (like they never thought this could be a problem).
My experience in France : if you work in France and don't want to pay taxes (because you do it in your country) you have to make your papers again every year. This means waiting for hours and days in crowded areas and even outside and with people from Africa and muslims from Asia. They are thousands getting their papers in every prefecture (there are hundreds of such administrations) and official french figures are completely false about immigration and naturalization I can swear. Those are getting 10 year valid papers or French citizenship (automatic after staying legally or not for 2 to 5 years in France) but they have to pay taxes in France. This is not a problem as they will live out of the French Social security payment for unemployed, social rents and for their numerous children. They will also be on a priority list for getting socially assisted flats and even then may still make violent demonstrations organized by associations for immigration (paid by government) to get free of charge flats in the center of Paris (they ask with the mayor of Paris administration support for seizing unoccupied apartments). One of my friends living in Switzerland have found his apartment offically squatted by those (even his things are used by the occupants) and he hasn't even been able to get many of his own papers from his own flat. After having tried by force to get rid of the occupants (originally illegals from Africa), he has been sentenced to stay out of a whole area of Paris around his flat. He escaped being condemned to prison and pay a compensation as he didn't altered any of his own taken things. By the way, for some years now, stealing in France has been renamed BY LAW "dishonest appropriation of property" (for those thinking that the US is the land of PC). This has lead to reconsider the stealing into being a dishonest appropriation but thoughtfully valid as long as one gets his hand on it (it is his property then). One can only ask compensation (restoring being one of the many possibilities) after years of legal proceedings.