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Old 05-12-2004, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by yankeefan1970
I think you missed my point. For starters, someone (your lawyer, for instance) really should have explained the process fully, including the timetable.
The timetable changed dramatically after 9/11... One of the unfortunate aspects of the Bush's Gestapo attitudes (now you will get a CIA background check that can take up to 1/2 a year and if your case worker asks for it too late well then you wait an additional 1/2 year...)

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Originally Posted by yankeefan1970
Not knowing your family, and not wanting to get too far into personal details, I get a vague impression that your wife is an American. If this is the case, are there not standards in place for marriage and the imigration laws? Forgive me for not knowing. I am an American, and could really care less to spend time reading about imigration laws.
There are standards in place... Yes. Does that mean they are followed? No. Are there ways this is supposed to happen and work out? Yes. Does that mean the procedures are follwed? Again. NO.
The whole thing is that there is really no reason behind some of this stuff they INS wants or the way they do things. Example: I applied for a renewal of my work permit. The BCIS has a policy that you should receicve your work permit within 90 days. 3 months for a rubber stamp.... WOW. Yet, they are too incompetent to fall within their own guideline times. I received a request for evidence from these yahoo's to get my work permit after I got my green card....? You explain the logic behind it... I think I have flash backs from 9/11 when they sent Visa's to the terrorists after the guys had blown themself up!

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Originally Posted by yankeefan1970
Once again, I think you missed my point. I was not suggesting that you are not permitted to complain. But rather if becoming a permanent resident of the US was important enough to you, then you take the good with the bad. There's really nothing gained by bitching about it.
On the contrary, I think I DO know what I'm talking about. I'm an American citizen. Born and raised there. BUT, I currently live in Switzerland. SO, I've had to go through similar residency issues. Register with the country, then the canton. Had to re-register when we moved out of teporary housing, even though we were in the same canton. We moved from one city to another, and we had to re-register, AND pay a 2nd time. [/QUOTE]

You probably never went to any swiss government employee and tried to speak the language of the land (german, italian or french depending on where you are) and the government employee did not understand you as he only spoke one other language (Chances are that they spoke 2-4 languages fluently). I had an INS inspector that either couldn't or refused to speak english! You have always a way to get a hold of a supervisor in european burocracies, at the ins you are at the mercy of some guy that didn't get his coffee fix for the day. It appears that there are no rules that stipulate "if then" paths.
You have to pay to renew work permits, every time you file a paper you pay here, you have to pay to renew your residency etc. etc.

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Originally Posted by yankeefan1970
I'm also only a temporary resident. If my family ends up staying in Switzerland for more than 5 years, your $4,000 price tag will seem like a day at the park!
I could have spent more if my petition would have been based on employment rather than my wifes US citizenship, it would have cost me somewhere around 15K, if my wife would have been naturalized, it would have been around 10K and the wait would have been about 6 years.....

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Originally Posted by yankeefan1970
Have I earned the right to bitch about it? Maybe. Do I choose to? No! Why they hell would I need to? It wouldn't solve anything.
How many petitions got lost in your process? How many petitions did you have to submit (and pay for) more than once because they lost it, misplaced it or didn't care to work in the legal limitations set upon by the laws and then their fuck up became your problem?

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Originally Posted by yankeefan1970
Don't go assuming that just because people don't sympathize with your plight it means that we don't understand what you're going through.
I wasn't trying to whine about it, I was trying to get a thread started about the ridiculusness of the american bureaucracy...
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