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And why not? You wouldn't go after the very people that you know are responsible for intentionally hurting and killing the people that you care about? If you wouldn't, that's pretty cowardly, if you ask me.
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I didn't know yankeefan killed some of you friends. I feel sorry.
Seriously, of course I would go after the people who are responsible for the current mess (verbally, that is). I can understand why you are upset, but if you get angry towards someone like yankeefan, you do this - in my opinion - out of frustration because you can't get to those who really are responsible for the suffering of the people you care about.
Still, I do agree with you that people who share and support the political ideas of the current administration, also are (in part at least) responsible for what is happening right now.
Yet isn't so the soldier who goes off to war, knowing that what he is doing is wrong? I remember some Israeli soldiers who did no longer want to commit actions that in their eyes were wrong. They faced the consequences of their ethical standards. What about US soldiers saying "no, this is wrong. Rather than being part of such stupidity, I'll resign."
Would you go to join the war in Iraq if Bush calls on you?
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What have my remarks added to the discussion, you ask? Perhaps just this one thing: now you all know that not all of us here in the US are in favor of this administration's policies and decisions, or of what they have done or are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places right now, for one thing. Many of us are truly outraged, and our outrage is growing stronger with each passing day, and with each funeral attended. And you now know that some of us here in the US are no longer holding back our deep outrage about this any more. We'll get right up in your face about it all, and we won't back down once we're in your face, either. Because for many of us this has personally touched our lives in the most unpleasant way imaginable. There is nothing quite like burying your friends to make you aware of just how much you resent the incredibly fucked up "reasons" for their having passed on.
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Most people here know that many Americans strongly disapprove of the actions of the current administration. Yet when you start name-calling other people, you [/exaggeration] prove (to me at least) that you are just the other side of the medal [/exaggeration]. People who need to use verbal insults in order to make their point are likely to use violence when things get complicated. Just as Bush did to solve the 'Saddam-Problem'.
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And just for the record, it's not just the loss of my own close personal friends that's got me so inflamed right now. I feel just as sorry for the innocent Iraqi's and Afghans, and for all those other people in this world that are either dead or suffering because of this idiot Bush and his grandiose ambitions, and because of those that continue to support him politically. They are only succeeding in making terrorism all the more popular all over the globe, and people everywhere, in Europe and in Asia and in the Middle East will have to pay the real price for Bush's endless attempts to gain some sort of political popularity here at home, and to ensure that he wins that next election.
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I absolutely agree. That's why I think every continent should count as a US-State during elections and get a respective number of electors.
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I'm only human, after all.
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No offense intended, but this is a lame excuse. It's exactly
because you are human why you should know better. Or are you just an American? ;)