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Old 05-09-2004, 03:30 PM
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I think some people are still oblivious to the fact that this sort of abuse has been going on for longer than you believe. The Red Cross report dating from mid 2003 had already blatant abuses and violations on record, proving this wasn´t some "isolated" incident. There are also plenty of evidence that proves this is more a sistematic pattern, with many high ranking oficials silently aquiescing to many forms of brutal abuse, and even encouraging it.
Several iraqis were mudered, beaten to death, raped and whatever you can think of. And this is not singular to Iraq neither. Similar occurrences have been reported in Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay. The scope of this is huge!
And it is the ultimate responsability of the man in office to answer for such violations.
And besides, if a president was thrown down over a blowjob, don´t you think murder, rape and torture is at least worth a similar ´punishment´?
Or could it be that americans see a blowjob as something way more serious than torture and State sponsored assassination?
Why should the politicians in charge take advantage of the "good" and discard the responsability for the "bad"?

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Because in the ideology of the american oligarchic democracy, torture officially has no place. Therefore, the representants of a democracy cannot be held responsible for such actions.
Just out of sheer curiosity, do you think Saddam had signed a piece of paper of preeched some ideology aproving of torture? I expect not.
No country ever announces their willingness to commit acts that go against international guidelines. I would bet that if asked, Saddam would say he was totally against torture, and that he abhorred such treatment. But yet he condones it, behind closed doors. What makes you think the american government could be any diferent? Just because it´s a "democracy"? Do you know how many democracies there are under wich name unspeakable acts have been commited? They are by the dozens, if not more!
Torture is never openly institutionalized. It is kept hidden, behind closed doors. Not even Hitler would ever openly admit and agree to having torture submitted on his prisioners.
I have a method to determine just who does it or not:
Those who speak the loudest against it and denounce it the strongest, are the first to resort to such strategems if the necessity arrises. They try to look shocked and appalled just to deceive the public.
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