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Originally Posted by genius
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as for rules of engagement, any combatant, who is not wearing a uniform, can be treated as a spy and executed stante pedem, even if he is wounded or surrenders.
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Uh, can a man be a "spy" inside his own country?
And where did you get the idead that they can be "executed", just like that?
@Ranger:
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BTW: Ryan = Pfc. Jessica Lynch? Just wondering. The reason she lived is because some civilian doctors and nurses at the Iraqi hospital where she was brought risked their lives to protect her. Read the news accounts. Watch her own media interview. They actually talked to the Iraqi doctors and nurses that kept her safe from the Iraqi military guys. You should keep up with the news.
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Uh, are you telling me that it was the doctor who attacked her convoy and took her into custody, and not iraqi combatants?
The point is, when she was captured, she could have been droped on the spot. Why did they bother to allow her to get medical treatment in the first place? If we use "an eye for eye" analogy here, she would be dead. If she isnīt, its because the iraqis arenīt the animals some assume they are, isnīt it?
You think hanging the dead bodies from a bridge is bad? Well, how about going over the head of a body with a tank? Is that ok? How about shooting soldiers surrendering? Is that ok too? And howe about shooting a chicken truck, packed with women and childrean? You want links? How about you read the words of the iraqis themselfs, if you donīt take my word for it?
Check back the links thread. I posted a link for iraqi blogs, where you can hear from them in person. I doubt anyone even bothered to click on it...
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As much as I dislike Bush, he is certainly not on the ground over there himself, giving orders, and you can't claim that he has ever authorized any illegal actions on the part of his troops.
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I never mentioned Bush. I said "the leader nation", not "the leader of the nation". Thereīs a huge diference. Check my post again.
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Look at your own country for instance -- there are certainly plenty of examples that I could point to of truly terrible, unbelievable atrocities that you guys committed down in South America and elsewhere over the years, aren't there?
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Uh, you do know iīm not from Spain, donīt you? Unless you mean Brazil, under wich case you donīt have much of a case there. It was the spanish who wiped out the Aztecs, and searched for El Dorado, with Cortez and Pizarro, not Portugal. We have our fair share of blood, but in Africa. Not in South America. Diferent continent.And we didnīt "obliterate" anyone either.
Check your history books.
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Why don't you guys go over there, if you really care about the poor Iraqi people as much as you claim? Then you could say that you really give a shit, and you might actually be believed.
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We are there already. Although your president seems to make it a point to keep forgeting our meeger contribution (much to the desperation of our Prime Minister), we are there nonetheless. And if you mean me in person, i will be there soon enough aswell, god willing.
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"They have seen the Marines take a much softer approach, which they do not respect, and this is why we have all these problems now".
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Utter bullshit. You donīt really believe this, do you? Again, i urge you to read the blogs of the iraqis themselfs, where they will explain to you exactlly why they have rebeled, and when they did.
I think you can do better than those Pentagon pencil pushers, and come up with a better explanation than that. All you have to do is try.
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A little over a century ago armies lined up in neat ranks, marched toward each other and then slashed or blasted away at each other until one side finally lost their nerve, broke ranks and retreated.
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Even the english would withdraw after the battle was over, to allow the enemy army tend to their wounded. They did not shoot them on sight, nor did they cared if the wounded would live to fight another day.
Wich reminds me. Are we really "evolving"? Shouldnīt Mankind be progressing as time goes by? If so, why are we still acting like baboons fighting over a piece of meat? Could it be that with all our new laws, our human rights babble, and our high tech technology, we arenīt any better than your average Neanderthal? Are we "evolving"? I think not.
To tell you the truth, this sort of thing is what one expects of Saddam and the like, not from those who seek to "liberate" and "illuminate" others. And if this is the best the US can come up with, i see no diference at all between them and those you seek to overthrow. Diferent shit, same smell.
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@lulu
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but you'll have to admit that the US Army did try to minimize civilian casualties in Iraq. In fact, I think its a first in their military history
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Are you for real? :confused:
Perhaps you should consult the latest figures on civilian casualties. Do that, and then come here to discuss it. But not a second before.
I give you the same advice as i did Ranger. Check the links thread for Iraqi blogs. Or better yet, iīll repost it here, to save you trouble:
http://www.justinalexander.net/iraq/
http://www.iraqvictims.com/
http://www.countercurrents.org/iraq-brad010404.htm
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
The general consensus is that about 10.000 civilians have died so far in Iraq. The wounded reach the 100.000. And this is not counting Fallujah, as itīs still a closed city. Acording to the latest numbers from Fallujah, at least 700 are dead.