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Originally Posted by NHØP
Yes. But why should the US approve of Israel carrying out actions which are illegal?
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If this is what you meant, then I might agree. This is a far cry from "greenlighting" someone or something. The US is not giving its permission for Israel to do anything. It doesn't have to, Israel is a sovereign nation.
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In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centres, it is unrealistic that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949, and all previous efforts to negotiate a two-state solution have reached the same conclusion,"
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By your own definition of what constitutes legal and illegal land rights, the armistice lines of 1949 are illegal. This land was gained by the British through war.
Aside from that, Israel did not set out to gain land through war. She protected herself, and in that protection she gained land. If the various Arab nations had not attacked her she would have what she had in 1949. We can go on and on about this, but you'll never convince me that an agressor has a right to be returned to parity, like some deadly game of "do-overs". They screwed up, they should have to pay the consequences.
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Bush is not saying that Israel can take whatever land it wishes, he is saying that she can keep some of the land that is disputed. This is how most analysts are interpreting the above statement.
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Again, Bush is not saying Israel can or cannot do anything. Israel can do whatever she wants.
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Im not sure what the exact law/wording is here. I do know that any Jew, anywhere in the world, can easily immigrate to Israel, a process known as aaliyah. This is not the case for the millions of Palestinian refugees living in camps and in diaspora. The right of return is a big issue amongst the Palestinian groups.
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Well, that's unfortunate. But it sounds like Israel's problem. Perhaps if she wasn't constantly worried about the next suicide bomber she could be more open with her borders. If a couple billion people were standing on my front door waiting to come in and kill me, I'd probably check a few ID's at the door too.
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Well, there is also that little thing about military occupation, checkpoints, military courts, detentions, targeted assasinations, etc...I think that suicide bombings flow from this kind of oppression. That doesent mean that I approve of such tactics or think they are effective.
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Right. The Palestinians have numerously been given exactly what they've asked for and have consistently turned it down in favor of demanding even more.
I'll grant that both parties are to blame for the cycle of violence, but I'll bet Israel didn't start it. If anyone can point me to a link that proves otherwise I would love to read it.
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I did say "moral difference between the political objectives" of Hamas (Islamic state) and the political reality that is the Jewish state of Israel.
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The political objectives of Hamas is to wipe Israel off the map. Representatives have stated it numerous times, it's in their charter, they won't stop until Israel is gone. Do you honestly believe that if everything were returned to the UN mandated borders that Hamas would be happy with a Jewish state right next door?
You seem to be a very intelligent person NH0P, I would really like to know how someone of your intelligence could possibly believe this.