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Old 04-16-2004, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NHØP
The US, by greenlighting Israel to annex land and deny a right of return to Palestinian refugees is advocating actions that are illegal under international law. The reason I asked if the law should be changed is because if these types of actions are ok, then shouldn't international law reflect this reality?
First, I would argue with the term "greenlighting". It presumes that the US is the judge and jury of the world. I think many would disagree with that assumption. I know I would.

Second, if there's a law there needs to be some authority which will enforce that law and administer the consequences for breaking the law. Since there is no authority in the world willing or able to enforce such a law it is as good as non existent.
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Well, in my opinion Israel should give up this land. She doesen't have to, though I think it is in her best interest to do so. But the important issue here is that her plan to annex portions of this territory is illegal.
I agree. If Israel wants to grab other sections of land that they didn't gain through the '67 war then they should be stopped. I've read your linked article again and I don't see anything about Bush saying he supports Sharon's plan to take land that's not his. I see Bush slapping Sharon on the back for giving up land that Israel doesn't have to give up.
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Who are America's rightful owners? The Indians? Don't American Indians have the right to live on their land? Are there a large group of disenfranchised Americans who seek to return to their ancestral homelands?
Who knows? How far back do you go?
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Yes. Most Palestinians are not allowed to live on the land that is now Israel.
That's not true. Nearly 20% of Israel's population is non-Jewish Arab.
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Thats actually kind of a tough question to answer in a complete way. For our purposes here considering the case of the Palestinians, I would have to say that their "claim" to the land has to do with the fact that their ancestors lived on the land for generations, possibly millennia. For Jews, the land has a special spiritual significance, with frequent references to the holy land in the Torah.
The Jews claim that the land was promised to them by God, and they have also had a population there for thousands of years.
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With regards to the Hamas charter, I think you are mistaken. The passage you quoted:... is taken from the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. I think (though I'm not sure) that this is referring to an "end of days" scenario, maybe like a Koranic "revelations"? Are there any Muslims here or Koranic scholars who can shed some light on this?
I'm confused. Isn't that line in the charter? So what if Muhammed said it?
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The most explicit mention of how Jews & Christians would be treated in a HAMAS state can be found in article 31: The Hamas is a humane movement
Are you seriously trying to claim that Hamas is a humane movement?
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