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Old 04-08-2004, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fatboy
So, you're saying that the US unilaterally declared and waged war on Iraq and it alone chose the targets in the first Gulf War? I mean, I have to make that assumption when you write: United States' deliberate destruction of Iraq's civilian infrastructure during the first Gulf War
I'm surprised I have to repeat myself to you, but here I go:
I was just saying that passing a resolution is not the exact same thing as waging a war. I was not talking about who started the war. I never claimed that the US unilaterally started the war. And as I urged you in the previous post, please read the post I wrote before that. The sentence you're commenting is a straight quote from the article, that's why it was in quotes, and that's why I provided the link to the original article. So feel free to make any assumptions you wish, but don't claim my posts are the reason for those assumptions. Sheesh....


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Had you been truthful, or at least informed, you would've removed the "United States'" part or substituted "United Nations'".
Again, I quoted the article. And even though the coalition forces acted under the UN mandate, do you believe the UN was in total control of the actual military operations?


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And this was solely the intention of the US, not the UN?
Again, it is the writer of the article who's responsible for this text. Of course the UN wanted the regime to change too, I never claimed otherwise. I'm repeating myself again here, but I was talking about the starvation and post war deaths you brought up. And these were also effected by the destruction of the infrastructure in addition to the other reasons.


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So, you believe things are worse for Iraqis now?
Hard to say since I haven't visited the place ever. May be better, may be worse, or for some people may be better and for some worse.


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Did I ever write anything that would cause you to infer that I believe any place is a Utopia?
I meant there is more unrest than there would be without the war.


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Certainly.

The point I was trying to make with the quote was that standing idly by while threats present themselves is as bad as committing the crime you were threatened with. I guess you disagree.
Did I say I disagree? But you are entitled to your guesses, so go ahead. But depending on the situation standing idly may not always be as worse as committing the crime yourself.
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