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Old 04-07-2004, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fatboy
My argument rests on the fact that:
1) Clinton had significantly more time to combat terrorism in general, and al Qaida specifically, than Bush. Why would we expect Bush's results to be any better?

2) Clinton was not as concerned about civilian casualties as Ranger would like us to believe (as my linked articles show).
What had Al Queda actually done, either before or during the Clinton administration, that even comes close to what they had cooked up for us on 9-11? SHOULD Clinton have been as concerned during his administration as Bush obviously needed to be during his? During the Clinton administration Al Queda was just seen as yet another shadowy little group of rather nasty fanatics. Just one such group out of of many. But Bush had much more recent and much more specific intelligence information that Clinton had not had, and Bush simply chose to ignore it (while he busied himself with plundering our tax system for his rich business buddies). Did Clinton have any real reason to be even more concerned than he already was at the time? Given what little Clinton actually knew at the time (about the actual up-and-coming 9-11 plans of this little group known as Al Queda) he acted appropriately for that particular period of time, I think.

It's also quite clear now, from a wide variety of sources, that Clinton approved the killing of Osama outright, without any reservations at all, really. It was the CIA that chose to interpret their general orders in such a way as to make the avoidance of any collateral damage the "main" priority. That was clearly our wonderful CIA to blame for that failure there, not Clinton. Follow the news and you'd already know this.

Personally, I think that if the pathetic Republicans hadn't been trying so very hard to make a mountain out of a little mole-hill with their silly, meaningless little attack on Clinton over a stupid blowjob, maybe Clinton may have been able to focus his attention a little better on the problem of Al Queda at the time. But with the economy booming, and jobs more plentiful than job applicants, they had to do something to smear Clinton, no matter how trivial and totally irrelevant it might actually be, right?

And no US President in the last 40 years can even come close to equalling Bush when it comes to showing a total disregard for civilian casualties, either foreign or domestic. His score thus far remains unequalled.

Lets face the facts here. Despite what Bush claims Al Queda and Iraq are two entirely separate animals. Not connected in any way. His war with Iraq is nothing more than a misguided war of aggression, pure and simple. And his conduct of the war with Afghanistan has been absolutely abyssmal, to say the least. Just like in Iraq, he obviously had no clue what he was doing then, and he still doesn't now. His shoddy military plans had no hope at all of capturing Bin Laden, and as proof I'll point out that Bin Laden remains free to this very day. Shitty planning, shitty implementation, and shitty follow-through. All hallmarks of any Bush plan. Bush is obviously a man given to making grandiose gestures with little or no thought for the consequences of his showboating. He's bellicose and cocksure, and as hopelessly dumb as they come. Brutalizing Iraq has not made us any safer, either. Far from it. More Americans died in Iraq today than on any day since the initial invasion, and it's getting worse, not better, in that regard. And there are more anti-US terrorist wannabe's all over the world today than there have ever been. Ever. Thanks, Bush. Where would we be today without you?

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