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Old 03-29-2004, 09:16 PM
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Barįa, if it seems that i was jumping at your throat, it was because you jumped at mine first. I just replied in kind.
You had no right to discard other peoples views so quickly, you know? You donīt hold the monopoly on the truth.
Regarding the so-called "studies", i think it should be pretty obvious to any one by now that the so-called scientists and doctors never seem to agree on anything, wich makes us question their sources, methods and intentions. All we can truly rely on are our own personnal experiences.
Wich by the way, you lack a great deal. I can condense your entire drug experience into one single week of my life, and that should be enough for you to hold back a notch. Itīs no crime not having experience in this. Infact, i wish i didnīt have my own. When someone becomes "experienced" in the crafts of drug abuse, it means youīve sunk down to the bottom of the pit. And you canīt even begin to wonder how deep that really is...
Before you claim our respective countries share diferent realities, i should remind you that i lived in Spain for 2 of my drug addict live, and my ex-girlfriend (an addict just like me) was from Cádiz. Iīve criss-crossed Spain from top to bottom, met hundreds of guys and girls, in dozens of cities, including Sevilla, Cádiz, Madrid, Valencia and even Barįelona. And all through my wanderings i found out that our realities are extremelly similar all the way down.
The only diference i found was in Cadiz, because it was the main entry point for moroccan hashish. I never bought the stuff so dirt cheap in my life.
I prope you totally discard the studies presented here, including those linked by myself, because they are not worth much.
I propose you find some hard core junkies in your neighbourhood, and ask them by wich drug did they start. The results will astound you.
These "studies" are fallible because we are adressing an issue that most people arenīt confortable admitting to. How many drug users do you know, that openly admit to using it? Do your parents know about your smoking? Or your non-using friends (if you still have some)? Well, maybe they do. But the majority doesnīt. Do you think drug users will answer the questions, posed to them by some quack doctor, with complete honesty? Obviously not. Some will claim to things they havenīt done yet, while others will deny some of what they HAVE infact done. This is why studies are fallible at best.
Letīs use common sense a bit:
For example, how much a percentage of young people will immediatelly start consuming hard drugs, without experiencing softer drugs?
How easier would it be for a group of people, already suffering from the social problems inherent to the use of drugs, to depart from soft drugs into a heavier drug experience?
I would say pretty easy. Itīs almost unhard of to have someone jumping head on into hard drugs, without experiencing at least a year or so with soft drugs. Using alcohol and cannabis will condition a manīs behaviour and social condition, making him a more suitable target for hard drugs.
You can read all about this here:
European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction
But then again, whatīs the use? No matter how many more studies claiming to one thing we can produce, there is always an equal number of other studies claiming otherwise! I could produce 100 reports saying one thing, that you would find another 100 saying another...
But if youīre interested, there is the Spain 2003 Drug report on that link, wich i read entirely.

Oh, btw, it would be healthy to get one thing straight:
When i said cannabis was not all that harmfull, i was meaning mostly on the social aspect, not the medical, and always in comparison with hard drugs and alcohol. Iīve said this before, but it seems i canīt stress it enough...
But since weīre at it, please observe the complete list of hazzards reported on the Spanish report. Youīll find it enlightning.
And what were those questions again? What question was that, that i failed to answer so much?
Also, isnīt it odd that while i think cannabis isnīt very damaging by itself (medical wise), and yet think it should not be legalized, while you think itīs quite harmfull and yet you continue to poster the "benefits" of it, and continue to advocate its usage?
If itīs so bad for you, as you say, why do you keep on smoking it????
Isnīt this a wee bit of a paradox?
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