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Old 03-28-2004, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Barça
and fail to mention his insights about the drug sharpening your motor skills, improving your social relations....
I am the one who is loving your logic mate. Lovin lovin lovin it
Barça, did i came across in any dubious way when i said "In some situations, weed can actually increase your reflexes, and cause an accute and sharp state of mind, improving your concentration."?
Wich part didn´t you understand? The "In some situations" part? Or something else?
Secondly, i really couldn´t care less about a DEA study, being that the situation in North and South America is totally diferent from Europe, where around 40% of the world´s hard drug users are, as opposed to the US´s meager 5%. You want studies? I will give you some.
But don´t waste my time with your denial phase, ok?
It´s very well knowned that "junkies" never admit to having a problem anyway, so you are just adding to that statistic.
And prey tell me ownmany hard drugs users do you know in person? And that you have talked to about this? Do you realise that i´ve been to Timbuctu and back with all this crap? Do you realize that there isn´t a drug center or therapy that i haven´t tried yet? And that i´ve met literally thousands of junkies from across Europe, from Russia to Ireland, and from Spain to Slovenia? And that all we did all day was to talk about our personnal experiences?
I couldn´t care less about some doctors in lab coaths, sitting in an office in the up part of town away from all the dirt, and trying to convince me that they know more about it than we do!! It´s total BS!
The next time you want to dispute this, take a deep breath and shut up, because you´re in for the voyage of your life!!

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You also claimed: "the majority will use it to climb the drug ladder to heavier stuff, like cocaine, speed, or even crack cocaine and heroine"
That statement has no validity whatsoever. It is not backed up by any study, and my personal experience tells me otherwise, but hey, if your PERSONAL experience is that most users of pot use it to climb to higher drugs... dont be so rotund when 'setting things straight'
Oh, you want to make this into a piss contest, do you? To see who has the most "experience", is that it? Go ahead, i´ll love this!!!

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Lynskey and colleagues acknowledged the study has several limitations, including relying on participants' reporting of their own experiences,
Yeah, and you know why? Because most junkies won´t ever admit to being one in the first place, wich is why studies aren´t worth the paper they are printed in.
To know the real hard truth, you need to go to the streets, you need to meet them face to face, you need to visit the "Casal Ventoso"s and "3000 viviendas" of this world.You can´t do it from your desk uptown.

"It is often implicitly assumed that using cannabis changes your brain or makes you crave other drugs," said lead researcher Michael Lynskey, "but there are a number of other potential mechanisms, including access to drugs, willingness to break the law and likelihood of engaging in risk-taking behavior."

And how do you think those mechanisms work, if not how i just told you?
Going up the drug ladder is not a medical issue, its a social issue. I never said weed makes you crave harder drugs, did i? I only said that when you enter the weed path, you enter a whole new pattern of living, and climbing up the ladder is an obvious expected result to many.
All those mechanisms are social triggered, not medical.

"It is often implicitly assumed that using cannabis changes your brain " What a crock of shit!!! Who the hell assumes that? Probably non users....
Don´t waste my time with this.

Barça, the first step to rehabilitation is admiting to the problem. When you´ve finally learned that, then you can be helped. But not a second before.
I´ve learned that the hard way, after dozens of relapses. And it all started with that single joint, almost 20 years ago. Of that initial group, 2 are dead, one is rehabilitated, 2 are in jail, a few others are still at it, and every single one of us had moved up to heroine after a couple of years. How´s that for your statistics?
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