Originally Posted by Grisu

I did not say YOU personally said that. I used to have a cartoon that showed a map with "Lake Afghanistan" and as comment "Problem solved". Just can't find it any more but it came around via e-mail. It is the attitude in the US that everything can be done with bombs and forcing people to democracy and the american way of life. The whole middle east had a social structure before anyone in the US even knew how to build a house and here is this infant of nations blessed with natural riches claiming to have found the holy grale of how to live together... (yet you (not fatboy but the US) still violate the human rights on a daily basis)

As far as Palestinians and Israelis go... there will never be peace because NEITHER side wants it. Period. Not the Jews nor the Arabs! The finger pointing as to who spins the spiral of violence where and when is pointless.

Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin

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Originally Posted by George Washington

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."