filters arent all that bad or anything, and i hope i havent pounced on u too hard kanto. if i did i apologize, but u need to listen to what pl say in constructive critisicm. ive seen countless posts, NOT BY ME, asking why u use 2 identical images in the same sig. take ppls opinions seriously. also im hear to help, not be a complete jackhole. if u want some tips on design or layout, just ask. OR another innovative way... look at advertisements.. they have generally great design. use those to influence ur design sense. as for filters, i shouldnt have bashed u that hard, but u gotta innovate man. dont just use filters, there's LOADs of ps7 tools available to u use them ^_^